[Politics] Brexit

[Blue3]

Moggs assertion that the same number of deaths in the British Concentration Camps of the Boar War compared to Glasgow is callous the period in question is 1900 until 1902.

The British during the Boar War rounded up farmers and their families and put them into concentration camps this amounted to around 115,000 individuals of whom 22,000 died while in captivity

The British also separately put into concentration camps an unknown number of black farm workers of 28,000 died while in captivity

It's important to note none of these individuals were boar fighters but all were civilians who were used by the British to break the morale of those who were fighting while at the same time cutting their lines of supply

Meanwhile in Glasgow in 1900 there was an outbreak of the Black Death which killed around 15,000 individuals this combined with the expected deaths of any large city are around the same as those who died in the British concentration camps of South Africa.

The fact is we the British were the inventors of the Concentration camp and through there use thousands died that equated to around 10% of the Boar population while compaireing this to an out brake of the Black Death is crassness in the extreme I am afraid Mr Mogg needs to correct the record at the very least

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Moggs assertion that the same number of deaths in the British Concentration Camps of the Boar War compared to Glasgow is callous the period in question is 1900 until 1902.

The British during the Boar War rounded up farmers and their families and put them into concentration camps this amounted to around 115,000 individuals of whom 22,000 died while in captivity

The British also separately put into concentration camps an unknown number of black farm workers of 28,000 died while in captivity

It's important to note none of these individuals were boar fighters but all were civilians who were used by the British to break the morale of those who were fighting while at the same time cutting their lines of supply

Meanwhile in Glasgow in 1900 there was an outbreak of the Black Death which killed around 15,000 individuals this combined with the expected deaths of any large city are around the same as those who died in the British concentration camps of South Africa.

The fact is we the British were the inventors of the Concentration camp and through there use thousands died that equated to around 10% of the Boar population while compaireing this to an out brake of the Black Death is crassness in the extreme I am afraid Mr Mogg needs to correct the record at the very least

Wrong thread?

 

[Lever]

This is the end of two party politics,it can’t come soon enough,the main reason the Nation voted to Leave the EU is because so many of us have felt politically homeless for 20 years.




On our way.

UKIP for you?

 

[Blue3]

Wrong thread?

How ironic while suggesting that Mr Mogg should set the record straight I inadvertently made an error that needs correction which I do by way of an apology

 

[JC Footy Genius]

How ironic while suggesting that Mr Mogg should set the record straight I inadvertently made an error that needs correction which I do by way of an apology

No problems at least you don't just mainly post twitter drivel on here

 

[BrightonCottager]

We are stockpiling chickpeas and tahini in case of a humus shortage.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Cracks widening in the Conservative Party by the hour. Which is nice. Sarah Wollaston now on the brink

And she was originally a Leaver. Saw through the lies early on and then showed the courage of her convictions.

 

[Baker lite]

UKIP for you?

No.
Probably won’t vote ever again.





On our way.


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[Lincoln Imp]

You may think my last point is wrong but Article 267 of the Treaty on the functioning of the EU says different. Giving supremecy to a foreign court presided on by foreign judges on matters of UK law is a measure of subordination not independence.

The withdrawal bill still maintains this status quo sadly.......so the battle for independence will continue.

Your last point itself indicates the lack of independence we have in the EU concerning the limits that currently exist in terms of trade deals, so no need to ask for examples when you already have one.

You are not applying the normal definition of independence.

By and large, any treaty or deal or formal arrangement one country enters into with another involves a loss of freedom. That is what tends to define an agreement. (Our membership of NATO, to take probably not the best of a million examples, means that we are unable to unilaterally announce that British troops will never be commanded by - or subordinate to - foreign officers.)

A loss of freedom associated with a specific agreement does not in itself represent an underlying loss of independence. (If this was not so there would be barely a country in the world that could be described as independent.) The key issue is whether the parties to an agreement freely entered into it, and can, according to the terms & conditions they accepted when doing so, freely depart from it.

Having freely chosen to enter a union with other European nations, the British state is now free to leave it. All it has to do is give two years' notice and then walk away. Modern Britain is, and always has been, an independent nation.

Your reference to the (utterly ghastly) withdrawal bill would be relevant if that bill was a unilateral EU construct. It isn't. It was a jointly-written bill driven by negotiations arising from Britain's sovereign decision to leave the EU. Britain is entirely free not to sign it. If you don't think it should, lobby your MP, or continue to get behind Iain Duncan Smith and the rest of them.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

And she was originally a Leaver. Saw through the lies early on and then showed the courage of her convictions.

She is a SW MP so we see quite a bit of her on our local politics programme after Marr.
For a Tory she comes across as a very decent and honest person, says what she feels and rarely sings from the Government hymn sheet if she feels it's not right.
Blimey, that's 2 Tories I quite like, the other being the prisons minister.

 

[vegster]

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My company are always worried about profits, people are there to be used to make those profits. The business IS all about making money and getting it out of the country as efficiently as possible.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Anyone buying a Porsche?

http://https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/15/porsche-asks-uk-buyers-to-commit-to-10-no-deal-brexit-surcharge?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

[LlcoolJ]

Anyone buying a Porsche?

http://https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/15/porsche-asks-uk-buyers-to-commit-to-10-no-deal-brexit-surcharge?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Seeing as Porsche is VW owned this will obviously be the tip of the iceberg. Pre orders on the most expensive, lowest units, for now....

 

[Stat Brother]

Economics only makes sense when it's written on the side of a bus:-

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https://amp.theguardian.com/busines...t-80bn-since-vote-bank-of-england-rate-setter

 

[Deleted member 22389]

[tweet]1096568440737927170[/tweet]

 

[Baldseagull]

That will never be reported in our MSM, nor will they mention any manufacturing jobs that are created in this country. All they are interested in doing is creating doom and gloom, creating panic to those who get easily sucked in by the headlines.

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This is a project that has been ongoing since 2001, a joint project between the US and UK.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

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Good news of course, but set the figures against the post above yours.

No point claiming a 1-10 defeat is victory.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

This is a project that has been ongoing since 2001, a joint project between the US and UK.

Are we saying this is old news. I checked the sources and it is new news.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Economics only makes sense when it's written on the side of a bus:-

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https://amp.theguardian.com/busines...t-80bn-since-vote-bank-of-england-rate-setter

If we forget the £350 million a week bonus for the NHS, and instead cut £450 million a week, then that's covered.

 

[Blue3]

My company are always worried about profits, people are there to be used to make those profits. The business IS all about making money and getting it out of the country as efficiently as possible.

Each according to their ability
To each according to their needs