[Politics] Brexit

[Bakero]

Sorry flower,B-, I must try harder.




On our way.


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You've lost me.

 

[Baker lite]

You've lost me.

I won’t be trying to hard to find you...



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[Baker lite]

I admire your honesty and willingness to share your experiences with the group.....do you have a bookmark folder?

I can’t breath [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji106][emoji2532]


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[portslade seagull]

You're better than that HT.

Usual response retorts to insults like the rest of the remain gang. None of them can put any point forward without an insult. Impossible to have a civilised argument

 

[portslade seagull]

Yes.

But now he's ****ed the company off to Singapore because of the Brexit disaster that he supported.

It's straw clutching of the worst order to try to defend this stuff. And yet you still try. Why?

Desperation I guess. Inability to admit that you got it all wrong? Possible. It's really sad anyway, still sticking to an agenda that has been wholly and comprehensibly discredited as BULLSHIT.

The rats are leaving the sinking ship and yet you want to drill more holes in the hull rather than plugging them.

So why has he left 4800 jobs. Please explain

 

[portslade seagull]

While I don't always agree, I can see the logic behind the likes of cunning fergus's arguments as they are based on ideology, not trying to argue we might be better off.

I understand people want to leave, and have reasons for that, but denying we are going to be worse off is like saying climate change isn't happening. It is a delusion.

This game of leaving is all about what is the 'least' painful, because all options are painful. I don't understand people trying to deny this.

Is that fact ? Or what you've heard

 

[cunning fergus]

They won't be though. Because the people doing the setting will be your ultra-nationalist fellow travellers, the ones you like to pretend aren't really on the same Brexit bus at all.

Unless, of course, Rees-Mogg, Redwood, Tommy Robinson and the rest simply haven't twigged that it's all a left-wing plot to take over the country and enforce hard-core socialism.

Cunning indeed...

The trouble with you (and others like you) is that you accept the superficial tropes of right wing, left wing without having a grasp of what it means and how political ideology overlays the history of institutions like the EU.

I suspect you are young, and won’t know that the very original eurosceptics were the Labour Party.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/paul-embery/trade-unions-should-wake-up_b_9193004.html

They were right then, they are right now.

There is no history of political extremists gaining control in this country in living memory, there is no NSDAP genie in the Brexit bottle, nor is there a USSR one.

If you want to protect the NHS and nationalise utilities/railways we can do out out the EU, once we have a socialist Government in charge.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Is that fact ? Or what you've heard

That is a pretty dumb question.

 

[LlcoolJ]

They won't be though. Because the people doing the setting will be your ultra-nationalist fellow travellers, the ones you like to pretend aren't really on the same Brexit bus at all.

Unless, of course, Rees-Mogg, Redwood, Tommy Robinson and the rest simply haven't twigged that it's all a left-wing plot to take over the country and enforce hard-core socialism.

Cunning indeed...

The second worst user name/actual user accuracy after Two Professors.

One talks himself incessantly into corners by trying to sound clever, the complete opposite of cunning. The other is almost eye wateringly stupid to the point where you keep thinking it's a joke, but it's not.

 

[LlcoolJ]

So why has he left 4800 jobs. Please explain

What are you on about? It's about moving the company headquarters so that the disaster that is Brexit will not affect his business. It's about trade deals and protecting his position globally.

He said Brexit was a good thing. He's realised it's a nightmare and had acted accordingly.

Where the jobs are is not the point in the short term. But in the long run, they won't be here if this continues.

I presume the potential lost tax revenue is also an irrelevance to you?

What do I need to explain?

 

[The Clamp]

So why has he left 4800 jobs. Please explain

Because it's about where his company is registered not about jobs.

 

[The Clamp]

Dyson, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Nigel Lawson – the leave elite appears to want Brexit for everyone else but themselves


In the words of Bentley’s chief executive: “It’s Brexit that’s the killer … It would put at fundamental risk our chance of becoming profitable.”

How else are we to interpret Dyson’s admission that it’s moving to Singapore to be “future-proofed”? What future exactly does it wish to be proofed against?

P&O revealed that it will be re-registering its entire cross-Channel fleet of ferries under the flag of Cyprus. To their credit, P&O were upfront: they’re doing this because of Brexit.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...8QMjUVBsubPVH5gQg_QRdiT_PGwnud37Jke6Pg5lIqtjY

Anyone who genuinely doesn't see the writing on the wall is frankly, mentally deficient. Your Brexit champions are deserting you. And you ****ing voted for it

 

[beorhthelm]

What are you on about? It's about moving the company headquarters so that the disaster that is Brexit will not affect his business. It's about trade deals and protecting his position globally.

goods traded will be covered by where they are manufactured, rules of origin, not where the HQ is.

 

[Baldseagull]

I admire your honesty and willingness to share your experiences with the group.....do you have a bookmark folder?

I do, but mine makes me look a bit of a hippy rather than a massive

 

[LlcoolJ]

goods traded will be covered by where they are manufactured, rules of origin, not where the HQ is.

Jesus wept. So Dyson is just doing this for fun then? I see.

 

[Baldseagull]

Usual response retorts to insults like the rest of the remain gang. None of them can put any point forward without an insult. Impossible to have a civilised argument

And yet Pastafarian chucks the insults in all the time too, and he clearly is an expert mass debater.

 

[The Clamp]

goods traded will be covered by where they are manufactured, rules of origin, not where the HQ is.

What makes you think that?

 

[cunning fergus]

goods traded will be covered by where they are manufactured, rules of origin, not where the HQ is.

Indeed, the truth is no defence on here though.

If he is cute he will have restructred and made sure payments for royalties and IP are funnelling through to brassplated holding companies in Jersey.

Who knows?

Still it’s definitely a HQ registered in Singapore so let the gallons of piss soak deep into the mattresses.

 

[beorhthelm]

Jesus wept. So Dyson is just doing this for fun then? I see.

presumably for tax, or maybe the stated reason to put key leadership closer to their growing markets.

What makes you think that?

how trade works. ask google about rules of origin. but its pretty obvious otherwise a company in US creates a subsidary in Ireland, says all the goods are made by that company and bypass tariffs and regulations. they can do that with services where no physical good, origin is replaced by place of trade.

 

[pastafarian]

And yet Pastafarian chucks the insults in all the time too, and he clearly is an expert mass debater.

Im sorry you find truthful insight insulting, but i guess if you cant even accept the basics that a democratic vote should be carried out your moral compass and grasp of what you consider acceptable is always going to be off the scale anyway.