[Politics] Brexit

[Razzoo]

A little prediction, one day the EU army will be deployed to crush anti EU protests. I hope that's bollocks but we shall see.

 

[Hampster Gull]

This is the Brexit dividend. Become Brexit secretary, make a complete hash of it, and then get awarded a job for £60K per annum for 20 hours a year.
All whilst serving as an MP.

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Indeed, TB, this exposes the Brexit leaders for what they are, chancers and profiteers, seeking to gain at the expense of the hard working

 

[cunning fergus]

Really? But [MENTION=5729]sir albion[/MENTION] seems to think it is because all our engineers are idiots who did nothing at university except doss about and join loony left sympathising groups, yet here's you telling us that it is because all our highly skilled engineers are already taken.

Two conflicting "working class" views as to why Dyson aren't recruiting in the UK then. Which to believe? I'll leave it to middle-income IT man and voice of the peeeple [MENTION=12825]cunning fergus[/MENTION] to inform us all of the correct answer, seeing as he behaves as if he is the one person on the internet who is allowed to speak for all British working classes.

My two penneth is that this is a tax dodge first a foremost, albeit relocating the administrative hub could be logical if the Asian markets are growing and countries like Singapore are offering sweeteners. Capitalism will always trump patriotism and Dyson is not treading a new path, over recent years plenty of U.K. companies have offshored jobs to India etc. and there has been no histrionics about those and others on here.

This is the consequences of globalisation whether we are in the EU or out; we know from the actions of our European friends post referendum that they are desperate to take jobs from the city, it’s dog eat dog out there, some people need to toughen up and stop wetting their pants.

Out the EU we can set our own business rates, taxes, subsidies and these should be (in my view) to the benefit of the working class, in the EU the interests of global capitalists wins out.....

https://www.euractiv.com/section/eu...of-blocking-eu-efforts-against-tax-avoidance/

Leopards don’t change their spots do they?

 

[Baker lite]

A little prediction, one day the EU army will be deployed to crush anti EU protests. I hope that's bollocks but we shall see.

I believe this will be the case, thank **** we will be long gone by then.
The Fourth Reich is rising and it doesn’t look good for the country’s we are leaving behind, I fear for them.


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[Kinky Gerbil]

Indeed, TB, this exposes the Brexit leaders for what they are, chancers and profiteers, seeking to gain at the expense of the hard working

Explains why he sulked off over the chance of a deal happening.

 

[Hampster Gull]

My two penneth is that this is a tax dodge first a foremost, albeit relocating the administrative hub could be logical if the Asian markets are growing and countries like Singapore are offering sweeteners. Capitalism will always trump patriotism and Dyson is not treading a new path, over recent years plenty of U.K. companies have offshored jobs to India etc. and there has been no histrionics about those and others on here.

This is the consequences of globalisation whether we are in the EU or out; we know from the actions of our European friends post referendum that they are desperate to take jobs from the city, it’s dog eat dog out there, some people need to toughen up and stop wetting their pants.

Out the EU we can set our own business rates, taxes, subsidies and these should be (in my view) to the benefit of the working class, in the EU the interests of global capitalists wins out.....

https://www.euractiv.com/section/eu...of-blocking-eu-efforts-against-tax-avoidance/

Leopards don’t change their spots do they?

He set his company up in 1991, he moves to Singapore a couple of months before possible Brexit

 

[pastafarian]

This government, who don't have a majority, and only governs due to a bribe to the DUP, is trying to ride roughshod over Parliament. So much for democracy.

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Umm…Jacob Rees Mogg is not the government.
Did you miss the part where he said ““I hope it will not be necessary for Her Majesty’s stay at Sandringham to be interrupted by her in person having to prorogue Parliament, we do not want that sort of constitutional crisis ,we want to observe the constitutional norms.”
He makes a valid point about the constitutional convention that some MPs are willing to tear up in order to stop Brexit and stop us from leaving. Not something you or your twitter feeds would want to bring up to anyones attention I should imagine.
Perhaps listen to the whole speech before deciding democracy is under attack from the government because of what JRM said in it.

 

[Hampster Gull]

I believe this will be the case, thank **** we will be long gone by then.
The Fourth Reich is rising and it doesn’t look good for the country’s we are leaving behind, I fear for them.


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#projectfear

 

[cunning fergus]

Again, you miss the point. I did indeed offer the thought that people with lower levels of education (like me, again) might tend to be less interested in politics but I wasn't stating it is a fact and I made it clear that it wasn't my main point - my main point was that there is a correlation between education levels and life opportunities. You ignored that, presumably because it didn't give you the opportunity for a shout.

You state as a fact that 'less educated' is a euphemism for 'working class'. No it's not and in any case you know perfectly well that I was not attempting to denigrate ordinary working people.

One thing I do agree with you is the suggestion that members of the 'working class' (to use your label) can be affected by job competition from EU workers. It happens in places I know, such as Boston. But 'many millions'? Where is your evidence for that?

Does any of this change the fact that the rich and powerful voted to remain in statistically greater numbers than any other cohort of social class? No, the answer is no.

I don’t have evidence to demonstrate unequivocally that many millions voted directly as a consequence of seeking labour market controls, however of 17.4 million voting leave I would hazard a guess of 25-33% which comfortably puts it in many millions territory.

 

[Baker lite]

#projectfear

Don’t forget Clegg, yes, the Man who single handedly committed the Lib Dems to the political wilderness for a generation rubbished the very idea of a European army during the Referendum of 2016, less than three years later Ver Hoftstadt is announcing a European army....not project fear cupcake, project fact.



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[Mtoto]

My two penneth is that this is a tax dodge first a foremost, albeit relocating the administrative hub could be logical if the Asian markets are growing and countries like Singapore are offering sweeteners. Capitalism will always trump patriotism and Dyson is not treading a new path, over recent years plenty of U.K. companies have offshored jobs to India etc. and there has been no histrionics about those and others on here.

This is the consequences of globalisation whether we are in the EU or out; we know from the actions of our European friends post referendum that they are desperate to take jobs from the city, it’s dog eat dog out there, some people need to toughen up and stop wetting their pants.

Out the EU we can set our own business rates, taxes, subsidies and these should be (in my view) to the benefit of the working class, in the EU the interests of global capitalists wins out.....

https://www.euractiv.com/section/eu...of-blocking-eu-efforts-against-tax-avoidance/

Leopards don’t change their spots do they?

They won't be though. Because the people doing the setting will be your ultra-nationalist fellow travellers, the ones you like to pretend aren't really on the same Brexit bus at all.

Unless, of course, Rees-Mogg, Redwood, Tommy Robinson and the rest simply haven't twigged that it's all a left-wing plot to take over the country and enforce hard-core socialism.

Cunning indeed...

 

[Bakero]

I would do time for that ****.


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Why exactly?

 

[The Clamp]

Yeah, didn't think so pal.

I like it when you go all Bruce Willis! Welcome to the party Pal!

 

[Baker lite]

Why exactly?

Too many reasons to list, main one being He is a traitorous piece of filth.


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[Baldseagull]

Dyson sucks!

Like an inexperienced rent boy though, not as well as you would hope.

 

[Bakero]

Too many reasons to list, main one being He is a traitorous piece of filth.


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Traitorous?

 

[cunning fergus]

He set his company up in 1991, he moves to Singapore a couple of months before possible Brexit

Sure, he’s a capitalist making a move hundreds of multinational companies make every year.......how about you rinse out your pants, check out page 3 and the factors that drive company relocations.

http://www.grant-thornton-gn.com/spub-23-a_global_guide_to_business_relocation.pdf

 

[Baker lite]

Traitorous?

Sorry flower,B-, I must try harder.




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[pastafarian]

Like an inexperienced rent boy though, not as well as you would hope.

I admire your honesty and willingness to share your experiences with the group.....do you have a bookmark folder?

 

[The Clamp]

Sure, he’s a capitalist making a move hundreds of multinational companies make every year.......how about you rinse out your pants, check out page 3 and the factors that drive company relocations.

http://www.grant-thornton-gn.com/spub-23-a_global_guide_to_business_relocation.pdf

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