[Politics] Brexit

[neilbard]

We need a plan B urgently........

Corbyn....

 

[Blue3]

Corbyn....

I really don't see why the fear of a Labour Government

 

[neilbard]

"The Speaker is the chief officer and highest authority of the House of Commons and must remain politically impartial at all times."

 

[A1X]

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[JC Footy Genius]

Bercow clears the way for the amendment, nice to see a Speaker who stands up for the rights of our sovereign Parliament. The Tories are just so arrogant repeatedly trying to treat Parliament with contempt.

According to the (pro Remain) Times, Bercow ignored the advice of the clerks and surprised even those proposing this amendment by allowing a vote.

You can certainly see why so many morally bankrupt types in parliament were prepared to overlook/ignore the numerous complaints about his bullying behaviour just so they had a fellow Remainer in place to help in their attempts to stop Brexit.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Tories lose again , end of May coming early this year

[MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] predicting the end of May/the Tories since the beginning of time ...

 

[neilbard]

[MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] predicting the end of May/the Tories since the beginning of time ...

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day..

 

[CHAPPERS]

"The Speaker is the chief officer and highest authority of the House of Commons and must remain politically impartial at all times."

He didn't tell anyone how to vote.

 

[A1X]

Ultimately, Bercow is there in a capacity of representing the interests of MPs. It is clear by the fact it passed that MPs will was for the amendment, therefore it is only proper that he allowed the vote. A Government with a majority would likely not have faced this situation, but it is rich indeed for a Government which has found itself in contempt of Parliament, has ridden roughshod over a number of Parliamentary protocols such as pairing and opposition days and has sought to gerrymander a majority on all Parliamentary committees despite having no overall majority in it's own right to complain about anything with regards to Bercow, or indeed for their supporters to do similar.

One thing he is not there to do, as many Brexiters seem to think, is to sit there quietly and allow the Executive to bully the Legislature into doing what it wants without question.

 

[CHAPPERS]

According to the (pro Remain) Times, Bercow ignored the advice of the clerks and surprised even those proposing this amendment by allowing a vote.

You can certainly see why so many morally bankrupt types in parliament were prepared to overlook/ignore the numerous complaints about his bullying behaviour just so they had a fellow Remainer in place to help in their attempts to stop Brexit.

Serious question. Did The Times ever produce an editorial in favour in Remain?

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day..

True ... May will have to step down at some point but she appears determined to cling on to the bitter end. Saying that I see the first poll of 2019 gives the Tories a 6% lead so maybe she will be around for some time yet.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.n...yky/PeoplesVoteResults_190104_LargePoll_w.pdf

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Serious question. Did The Times ever produce an editorial in favour in Remain?

Yes.

The Times may once have been regarded as part of the establishment. If so, those times are past. We will take a maverick view where logic and the evidence support it. We have considered every aspect of the European argument with the seriousness and scepticism it deserves. We respect the arguments of those who would have Britain leave, but on balance we believe Britain would be better off leading a renewed drive for reform within the EU rather than starting afresh outside it.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/remaking-europe-h7lcgs8bw

 

[CHAPPERS]

Yes.

The Times may once have been regarded as part of the establishment. If so, those times are past. We will take a maverick view where logic and the evidence support it. We have considered every aspect of the European argument with the seriousness and scepticism it deserves. We respect the arguments of those who would have Britain leave, but on balance we believe Britain would be better off leading a renewed drive for reform within the EU rather than starting afresh outside it.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/remaking-europe-h7lcgs8bw

Cheers.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Ultimately, Bercow is there in a capacity of representing the interests of MPs.

Is he ? My understanding is that the speaker is there to uphold process and procedure - to be neutral so not support MPs or government but to ensure everything is done by the rulebook. He seems to have stretched his role on this occassion.

 

[neilbard]

Is he ? My understanding is that the speaker is there to uphold process and procedure - to be neutral so not support MPs or government but to ensure everything is done by the rulebook. He seems to have stretched his role on this occassion.

Correct!

 

[CHAPPERS]

It's almost as if this government has been playing by the rulebook and haven't been found in contempt by Parliament isn't it. Time they got slapped down.

 

[ManOfSussex]

How many more defeats before its time to leave the building

That's 12 defeats since the 2017 election apparently now.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

According to the (pro Remain) Times, Bercow ignored the advice of the clerks and surprised even those proposing this amendment by allowing a vote.

You can certainly see why so many morally bankrupt types in parliament were prepared to overlook/ignore the numerous complaints about his bullying behaviour just so they had a fellow Remainer in place to help in their attempts to stop Brexit.

Regardless of the rights or wrongs of Bercow's decision, what conceivable good would giving May another 21 days do? Regardless of one's position: she is a busted flush.

 

[neilbard]

It's almost as if this government has been playing by the rulebook and haven't been found in contempt by Parliament isn't it. Time they got slapped down.

Cameron slapped by the EU.
Cameron slapped by the people.
May slapped by the people.
May slapped by Parliament.

 

[neilbard]

Regardless of the rights or wrongs of Bercow's decision, what conceivable good would giving May another 21 days do? Regardless of one's position: she is a busted flush.

What good is giving her only three days? She's ****ed, but no one else in the Tories wants this cluster **** and Labour still wouldn't be able to muster up enough support to govern the UK with a majority. So we're all ****ed..