[Politics] Brexit

[lawros left foot]

Brexit economic analysis due out today, more project fear, or more’lets all bury our heads in the sand’?

 

[vegster]

Brexit economic analysis due out today, more project fear, or more’lets all bury our heads in the sand’?

It will highlight the fact that officially have two options, Mrs Mays bad deal or and even worse No Deal, it's also going to remind us that despite May's pleading for the public to get behind her deal, we will have no say in the vote and have to rely on 650 odd MP's to vote to fit their conscience and what they feel they should do for their electors.


So as a country we are facing the prospect of being worse off or badly worse off, I can see there are going to be some very pissed off people in the next few years.

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

As expected it is all now being manufactured by Politicians to get MPs and the public behind this dogs dinner of a deal to make us worse off.
The amount of times you hear " I have been out and about and people are saying" or " my postbag" or " emails sent to me are clearly saying".
It always suits their agenda.
Are people really saying that this is the best we could get so let's just get on with it.
Are we really going to go ahead with something to make us worse off or very worse off.
Staying in the EU is the best deal, sod democracy, the people are idiots, stop this ridiculous farce now.

 

[Giraffe]

Brexit economic analysis due out today, more project fear, or more’lets all bury our heads in the sand’?

A mixture of both.

IIf the economy is only 1-% worse off for a year or two no one will really notice. Long term we could well be better off out of the EU but no one will be forecasting 50 years in advance.

 

[nicko31]

It will highlight the fact that officially have two options, Mrs Mays bad deal or and even worse No Deal, it's also going to remind us that despite May's pleading for the public to get behind her deal, we will have no say in the vote and have to rely on 650 odd MP's to vote to fit their conscience and what they feel they should do for their electors.


So as a country we are facing the prospect of being worse off or badly worse off, I can see there are going to be some very pissed off people in the next few years.

There will be a lot of pissed off people, the lies of Brexit can't be delivered and someone will pay.

The Tories will use a weaker economy as an excuse for more austerity (even if they are pretending its over) and more war on the poor.

Meanwhile higher rate tax payers will get an £860 tax break next April. Nothing has changed, no one should be fooled

 

[pb21]

A mixture of both.

IIf the economy is only 1-% worse off for a year or two no one will really notice. Long term we could well be better off out of the EU but no one will be forecasting 50 years in advance.

Mogg is. Coincidentally 50 years in advance of now is when he thinks we will notice the economic benefits of Brexit.

 

[WATFORD zero]

A mixture of both.

IIf the economy is only 1-% worse off for a year or two no one will really notice. Long term we could well be better off out of the EU but no one will be forecasting 50 years in advance.

Two and a half years later and you are still quoting JRM's economic forecasts. This is the man who couldn't count to 48

 

[ManOfSussex]

A mixture of both.

IIf the economy is only 1-% worse off for a year or two no one will really notice. Long term we could well be better off out of the EU but no one will be forecasting 50 years in advance.

Over the nest 15 years it's apparently saying GDP will be lower by:

1%-2% - Under May's Deal
1.4% - Norway Option
4.9% - Canada Option
7.6% - No Deal/WTO

Who cares though - we've got blue passports coming.

 

[nicko31]

Mogg is. Coincidentally 50 years in advance of now is when he thinks we will notice the economic benefits of Brexit.

I did hear one Tory Brexiteer say we might be better off in 10 years, there will be wild celebrations in nursing homes around the country.

But it at least we won't issues with transient Eastern Europeans leaving the UK when their own economies start booming, the new breed of migrants from outside the EU will show commitment and stay forever. More cheer for the leave voters...

 

[nicko31]

Over the nest 15 years it's apparently saying GDP will be lower by:

1%-2% - Under May's Deal
1.4% - Norway Option
4.9% - Canada Option
7.6% - No Deal/WTO

Who cares though - we've got blue passports coming.

Does the 1-2% under May's deal include the 2% of growth we've already lost since the referendum

May is getting really desperate now

 

[ManOfSussex]

I did hear one Tory Brexiteer say we might be better off in 10 years, there will be wild celebrations in nursing homes around the country.

But it at least we won't issues with transient Eastern Europeans leaving the UK when their own economies start booming, the new breed of migrants from outside the EU will show commitment and stay forever. More cheer for the leave voters...

The Commonwealth and all the corrupt, developing, autocratic, homophobic, misogynistic countries that don't have any fondness for The UK that are members, are very important to some of those leave voters you're mentioning. More unskilled Pakistanis and less Polish is what they wanted.

 

[CHAPPERS]

does the 1-2% under may's deal include the 2% of growth we've already lost since the referendum

may is getting really desperate now

brexit dividend.

 

[beorhthelm]

Brexit economic analysis due out today, more project fear, or more’lets all bury our heads in the sand’?

lots of people not understanding difference between lower absolute and lower rate of increase.

 

[CHAPPERS]

David Davis, of all people, is giving a speech about the reliability of economic forecasts today.

10.30am: David Davis, the former Brexit secretary, gives a speech on the reliability of economic forecasts.

Around 11.30am: The Brexit department is due to publish the government’s assessment of the economic impact of Brexit.

Marvellous.

 

[nicko31]

David Davis, of all people, is giving a speech about the reliability of economic forecasts today.



Marvellous.

One slight problem with today's forecast the Government Economic Service has their figures modelled on the deal that EU27 has ruled out, namely Chequers, and actual deal can’t be modelled because it does not exist

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Over the nest 15 years it's apparently saying GDP will be lower by:

1%-2% - Under May's Deal
1.4% - Norway Option
4.9% - Canada Option
7.6% - No Deal/WTO

Who cares though - we've got blue passports coming.

Average national figures of course.

For the north east region it is ~ -16% for *No deal* ( WTO ).

*ouch*

 

[nicko31]

Average national figures of course.

For the north east region it is ~ -16% for *No deal* ( WTO ).

*ouch*

No deal = Au Revoir Nissan and supply chain.....

 

[Baldseagull]

David Davis, of all people, is giving a speech about the reliability of economic forecasts today.



Marvellous.

So what he is saying is it could be worse than forecasted?

 

[Ernest]

I don't know what to make of May on the TV carrying on with this charade for her deal, surely there has to be someone to lead her off and tell her for her own good to give it up

 

[Springal]

Average national figures of course.

For the north east region it is ~ -16% for *No deal* ( WTO ).

*ouch*

61% of Sunderland voted Leave so let them have it.