[Politics] Brexit

[A1X]

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/07/27/this-is-what-no-deal-brexit-actually-looks-like

Highly informative piece on what No Deal looks like for Britain's food supplies and the agricultural sector

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[Pavilionaire]

Let me get this right. We'll be stockpiling pharmaceuticals, medicine and blood, while the EU will be stockpiling what - whisky, jam and scones? The mantra "they need us more than we need them" is beginning to look like a sick joke.

 

[Trufflehound]

Let me get this right. We'll be stockpiling pharmaceuticals, medicine and blood, while the EU will be stockpiling what - whisky, jam and scones? The mantra "they need us more than we need them" is beginning to look like a sick joke.

Which raises another point. How could anyone expect a country to unite and agree on a path to Brexit, when it can't even unite and agree on the correct way to pronounce 'scone'?






It's 'Skonn'...

 

[beorhthelm]

Which raises another point. How could anyone expect a country to unite and agree on a path to Brexit, when it can't even unite and agree on the correct way to pronounce 'scone'?






It's 'Skonn'...

a good point well made.

 

[nicko31]

I see May is doing the rounds now in Austria trying to get them to buy into our cherry picking. They may be a bit Euro skeptic but they will still defend the EU's interests

She's wasting her time, just going through the motions and surely by now she knows it too. Better off carrying on to Italy, find a nice villa somewhere, take a long hard think and face up to reality over the summer What is really best for Britain from here?

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

"...........and all will be clover" .

To recycle a phrase:


'They think it's all clover; it isn't now!' Sorry.

 

[Ernest]

I see May is doing the rounds now in Austria trying to get them to buy into our cherry picking. They may be a bit Euro skeptic but they will still defend the EU's interests

She's wasting her time, just going through the motions and surely by now she knows it too. Better off carrying on to Italy, find a nice villa somewhere, take a long hard think and face up to reality over the summer What is really best for Britain from here?

Hopefully she will go up a mountain and stay there

 

[ManOfSussex]

I see May is doing the rounds now in Austria trying to get them to buy into our cherry picking. They may be a bit Euro skeptic but they will still defend the EU's interests

She's wasting her time, just going through the motions and surely by now she knows it too. Better off carrying on to Italy, find a nice villa somewhere, take a long hard think and face up to reality over the summer What is really best for Britain from here?

She's off to The Czech Republic after that as well wasting her time there too. I see the Czech Minister for Europe pointed out this morning that just because they don't like aspects of EU policy and are worried about no deal doesn't mean they won't stand behind the united EU stance.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Good grief, the Brexit thread has morphed into a Guardian/Socialist workers (oxymoron) back-slapping comment section ... most of you (#teameu) voted wanting to undermine the Uk governments initial position (respecting democracy) yet still spend hours online whining at the inevitable weakness stalemate

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Good grief, the Brexit thread has morphed into a Guardian/Socialist workers (oxymoron) back-slapping comment section ... most of you (#teameu) voted wanting to undermine the Uk governments initial position (respecting democracy) yet still spend hours online whining at the inevitable weakness stalemate

So true.

 

[Two Professors]

Thank you having a great retirement but as a Remainer not only my family but I want to share for everyone in the hope that after I have gone we leave the world better and everyone living in a fairer society

Very admirable,I'm sure.'For the many,not the few'.I much prefer 'charity begins at home',which leaves more better off people to contribute,as I'm not a millionaire.

 

[Two Professors]

Good grief, the Brexit thread has morphed into a Guardian/Socialist workers (oxymoron) back-slapping comment section ... most of you (#teameu) voted wanting to undermine the Uk governments initial position (respecting democracy) yet still spend hours online whining at the inevitable weakness stalemate

Would still like to know where they get all this'eyes wide open Brexiteer'rubbish from.Is there some clown at the Grauniad charged with producing idiotic phrase of the week?I will let them off though.Off to see Albion tomorrow-hope I know some of the players names!

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

desperate , desperate times for the last chance saloon gang, acting like some crazy sect that has moved out of the main stream
regards
DR

 

[GT49er]

She's off to The Czech Republic after that as well wasting her time there too. I see the Czech Minister for Europe pointed out this morning that just because they don't like aspects of EU policy and are worried about no deal doesn't mean they won't stand behind the united EU stance.

I see May is doing the rounds now in Austria trying to get them to buy into our cherry picking. They may be a bit Euro skeptic but they will still defend the EU's interests. She's wasting her time, just going through the motions.

FFS, discussions with other country's leaders are part of the negotiation process. It's her job, for pity's sake! What do you expect her to do - just sit and twiddle her thumbs until March 29th. has come and gone?

Better off carrying on to Italy, find a nice villa somewhere, take a long hard think and face up to reality over the summer. What is really best for Britain from here?

The reality being we're leaving the EU? I think she already knows that. Interesting how "What is really best for Britain" seems to have become remainers' favoured euphemism for "What I really want, even though a majority of my fellow voters rejected it".

 

[JC Footy Genius]

So true.

Unfortunately, the pervasive elements in this country, who have had their way far too long and been doing just fine (see team Osborne, establishment/Goldman Sachs) and/or people that think the UK is a bit sh*t have been having a nervous breakdown for two years because of a democratic vote. They demand swpecial privelege to go against the UK's democratc history of enacting the will of free and fair elections.

Some people prioritise money - having a cheap cleaner, car washer, nanny .. others prioritise democratic accountability, live in the real world and can see the long game.

Don't believe a word of the 'we know whats best for the poor underclass bless em' we did it for our children types ... patronising Guardianista/ socialist bellends ... they are usually furthest removed from the consequences of their vote.

Most people on this thread are now fully signed up members of Team EU /Team Tory elite/team establishment

 

[ManOfSussex]

FFS, discussions with other country's leaders are part of the negotiation process. It's her job, for pity's sake! What do you expect her to do - just sit and twiddle her thumbs until March 29th. has come and gone?

They're not - The negotiation is with The EU as is being proved with the united front behind it the other 27 are still putting up, despite the consequences for them of our leaving, as well as for us.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

Unfortunately, the pervasive elements in this country, who have had their way far too long and been doing just fine (see team Osborne, establishment/Goldman Sachs) and/or people that think the UK is a bit sh*t have been having a nervous breakdown for two years because of a democratic vote. They demand swpecial privelege to go against the UK's democratc history of enacting the will of free and fair elections.

Some people prioritise money - having a cheap cleaner, car washer, nanny .. others prioritise democratic accountability, live in the real world and can see the long game.

Don't believe a word of the 'we know whats best for the poor underclass bless em' we did it for our children types ... patronising Guardianista/ socialist bellends ... they are usually furthest removed from the consequences of their vote.

Most people on this thread are now fully signed up members of Team EU /Team Tory elite/team establishment

The logic here is a bit like of the 'all leopards have spots, he has spots, therefore he is a leopard' variety. Some us are reasoning individuals who take a reasonably well-informed view and are neither members of some sort of mythical elite/establishment and neither are we necessarily followers of their views. We might share some common ground but really the 'Goldman Sachs' stuff is getting a bit......tired and (not to be hyper critical) lazy; a kind of Ryman's League level name-calling. We can all trade in stereotypes but it's not really worthy. Time to play the ball and not the man?

As for the 'long game' you might well be right. But doesn't JRM himself talk about 50 years to see the net benefits? (Not sure what metrics he or anyone might base this on.)

 

[Blue3]

Very admirable,I'm sure.'For the many,not the few'.I much prefer 'charity begins at home',which leaves more better off people to contribute,as I'm not a millionaire.

And there we have it the fundamental difference between the left and right of British politics we all want the same outcome but approach it from different directions

 

[JC Footy Genius]

The logic here is a bit like of the 'all leopards have spots, he has spots, therefore he is a leopard' variety. Some us are reasoning individuals who take a reasonably well-informed view and are neither members of some sort of mythical elite/establishment and neither are we necessarily followers of their views. We might share some common ground but really the 'Goldman Sachs' stuff is getting a bit......tired and (not to be hyper critical) lazy; a kind of Ryman's League level name-calling. We can all trade in stereotypes but it's not really worthy. Time to play the ball and not the man?

As for the 'long game' you might well be right. But doesn't JRM himself talk about 50 years to see the net benefits? (Not sure what metrics he or anyone might base this on.)

Some of us are reasonng individuals blah blah ... see people who when it really matters still have dismissive contempt for people who vote differently than your pov ... how dare they, a patronising contempt that has partly led to wear we are today?

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

They're not - The negotiation is with The EU as is being proved with the united front behind it the other 27 are still putting up, despite the consequences for them of our leaving, as well as for us.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...eal-brexit-nightmare-rupture-western-alliance
regards
DR