[Politics] Brexit

[Herr Tubthumper]

From today's FT:

The Brexiters’ assumption has always been that they will impose on the rest of us their Elizabethan fantasies of a buccaneering England restored to global pre-eminence. As the cheerleaders for departure, they assumed they could set its terms. Now they find that parliament wants its say. They can wreck Mrs May’s plans, but lack the votes to carry their own. Their rage is palpable. Stalemate could yet see Britain staying in.

Tick-tock [we might not be leaving].

Rees-Mogg looks a bit snookered

 

[Two Professors]

I didn't say it wasn't, hence I choose in terms of reputability who and what I read, rather like the choice of my daily newspaper being The Times rather than The Sun for example.

Ah,the voice of reason and common sense!















Well,apart from the dig at the Sun,Great Britain's favourite newspaper!

 

[ManOfSussex]

Once again you are both presenting a possibility as fact. It says they might be needed, but only if the UK and EU don't agree to mutually recognise licences.

Where exactly am I presenting a press release by The Road Haulage Association, concerned that the White Paper doesn't go far enough to address their concerns, as being a fact of what will happen?

 

[pastafarian]

Predictably as ever [MENTION=21401]pastafarian[/MENTION] didn't disappoint on that one as he's just the gift that keeps on giving.

why disappoint on the truth.....its project fear

 

[Simster]

It was a straightforward binary choice Leave or remain,and no amount of whining and crying will alter that.It is historic fact.

True, true.




So which of the six Brexits listed by HKFC did it mean then?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Let me be very clear and repeat what i have said on here before. I am not against those that oppose Brexit, i am against those who are against brexit who will try to stop the democratic vote being enacted.

You keep repeating this tiresome comment. But how do you think us Remainers are trying to stop Brexit being enacted? Is it via force, revolution, gun point? No, it’s via the legal, lawful and democratic procedures and processes which are available to us.....the very same legal, lawful and democratic procedures and processes which you are no doubt glad the U.K. got back? We’re allowed and entitled to do this.

 

[Two Professors]

It really isn't. You clearly haven't read the exchange leading up to that comment.

pastafarian (in his usual unintelligent and intolerant way) was insisting that Jacob Rees-Mogg "is just pushing for the Brexit that was voted for". Even many Brexit voters would take issue with that, and is what hkfc was arguing against.

Jacob Rees-Mogg is a dangerous parliamentarian who has decided that Brexit means HIS definition of Brexit, and goes whinging to the right-wing press whenever anybody dares disagree with him. This is the bloke who uses filibustering as a means of ensuring democracy isn't seen through when it suits him.

At the end of the day,Brexit STILL means Brexit,not remain.Possibly you could give an example of these 'many Brexit voters'.Are they on Twitter?

 

[pastafarian]

[MENTION=21401]pastafarian[/MENTION]. Take a break, you’re been owned by numerous people over the past few days. Maybe some time away will be beneficial to you?

Dream on sunshine,idiots like thunder bolt cant even conjure up a reply when their bullshit is exposed.
But talking of time away......

 

[ManOfSussex]

why disappoint on the truth.....its project fear

That's as may be, but you need to appreciate that I value your opinion on what is the truth and what is project fear as being somewhere between irrelevant and inconsequential.

 

[Two Professors]

True, true.




So which of the six Brexits listed by HKFC did it mean then?

They are just figments of his imagination,a bit like brain farts,which will vanish in the breeze of fresh Brexit air as we Leave the fetid stench of the EU behind us!

 

[pastafarian]

You keep repeating this tiresome comment. But how do you think us Remainers are trying to stop Brexit being enacted? Is it via force, revolution, gun point? No, it’s via the legal, lawful and democratic procedures and processes which are available to us.....the very same legal, lawful and democratic procedures and processes which you are no doubt glad the U.K. got back? We’re allowed and entitled to do this.

yep you said it, you are trying to thwart the democratic vote from being enacted.
Thanks for your honesty weasel

 

[Simster]

Let me be very clear and repeat what i have said on here before. I am not against those that oppose Brexit, i am against those who are against brexit who will try to stop the democratic vote being enacted.There is nothing wrong with being unhappy at the vote.
I have said a number of times, if you are against brexit then campaign to rejoin after we have left. This is the correct path of democracy, it respects the vote tp leave and respects the vote to try and rejoin at a later date. It will sit much better with the country and put an end to this divisiveness. The remoaners though are refusing to do this, they risk a complete breakdown of parliamentary accountability by their current methods........the consequences of that are very grave indeed. They really are playing with fire.

I see - so it's one rule for LibDems who are expected to get right behind Brexit now despite it being a shambles - and one for Farage who is allowed to say - completely unchallenged by you - that the referendum result would have meant nothing had it been 52-48 the other way.

Hypocrite.

 

[CHAPPERS]

yep you said it, you are trying to thwart the democratic vote from being enacted.
Thanks for your honesty weasel

Am I allowed to want a second referendum?

 

[Simster]

At the end of the day,Brexit STILL means Brexit,not remain.Possibly you could give an example of these 'many Brexit voters'.Are they on Twitter?

Er, hilarious I'm sure.


Meanwhile, you've completely ignored how that whole exchange came about. hkfc was rallying against the weasel-hypocrite in chief [MENTION=21401]pastafarian[/MENTION] insisting that Jacob Rees Mogg was campaigning for the Brexit that was voted for.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

yep you said it, you are trying to thwart the democratic vote from being enacted.
Thanks for your honesty weasel

Welcome to democracy, thicko.

 

[nicko31]

All worth it though. [MENTION=21401]pastafarian[/MENTION] and his mates have got their country back.

Yeah all worth it, sterling goes sub 1.3 on USD for first time since last September.

Better hope we're on a run of decent summers now, for many overseas holidays will soon be out of reach

 

[pastafarian]

Oh and what is your opinion on Nigel Farage? You know, this fella:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36306681

Opinion on Nigel Farage? If you insist.
Without him Brexit would not have happened. Brits like a plucky underdog. The vitriolic campaign to smash him into silence spectacularly backfired and helped brexit happen too. Anyone who was ever a part of that knock down should give themselves a big pat on the back. Brexit salutes you.

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

[MENTION=21401]pastafarian[/MENTION]. Take a break, you’re been owned by numerous people over the past few days. Maybe some time away will be beneficial to you?

Aw come on now: we'd all miss him.

 

[Simster]

Opinion on Nigel Farage? If you insist.
Without him Brexit would not have happened. Brits like a plucky underdog. The vitriolic campaign to smash him into silence spectacularly backfired and helped brexit happen too. Anyone who was ever a part of that knock down should give themselves a big pat on the back. Brexit salutes you.

Yep, as previously mentioned, you really are a weasel and even worse, a complete hypocrite.

 

[Two Professors]

Read a very interesting prediction of the future last night,where all countries were in groups forced to exist by over-population and natural resources.The EU no longer existed as it had no natural resources,like Japan,and the countries had fallen into alliances with Russia,Africa,China,and India.Great Britain was in the Atlantic alliance with the US and Canada.So all this EU stuff won't last much longer anyway,as they are nett importers.No rare earths,no gold,silver,or uranium,no diamonds.As the rest of the world catches up in industrial output,no future.Bye-bye EU.