[Politics] Brexit

[melias shoes]

Bank of England boss lowers Brexit job loss estimate as he strikes tone of optimism over financial services deal

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Rejoice. Not so bad after all. Awaits remainers put down.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

The question posed to him was what was HE fighting for. Regardless I'm sure whichever EU country he has moved to will fight to change the EU ..... not.

Whatever. The fact is that the UK was (is?) faced with a glorious opportunity to be a leader of change and evolution across Europe, driving the development of the union with the support of its many friends and becoming, once again, a growing force in the world. So what is it doing? It's saying that because previous attempts to encourage change didn't go according to plan - in part because there wasn't a plan - then, rather than keep on trying it's going to turn and run away, its retreat disguised by the glory-glory anthems of small politicians and their PR operatives. Never has failure and decline been so brilliantly tarted up.

 

[Two Professors]

Whatever. The fact is that the UK was (is?) faced with a glorious opportunity to be a leader of change and evolution across Europe, driving the development of the union with the support of its many friends and becoming, once again, a growing force in the world. So what is it doing? It's saying that because previous attempts to encourage change didn't go according to plan - in part because there wasn't a plan - then, rather than keep on trying it's going to turn and run away, its retreat disguised by the glory-glory anthems of small politicians and their PR operatives. Never has failure and decline been so brilliantly tarted up.

I think it is more a case of us clever ones getting off at the last port of call,whilst you lot can stay and listen to the Berlin Phil. as the EUS Titanic sinks beneath the weight of it's debts,while 27 captains decide what to do!

 

[ManOfSussex]

Getting back on track. I trust the EU will now play hard ball on EU citizen’s rights and ensure the ECJ has final say over them in perpetuity. British government simply can’t be trusted on this matter.

Former Permanent Secretary to The FCO and Ambassador to France, Lord Ricketts, was on C4 News earlier saying he thought it inevitable now as result of the Windrush issue that The UK will concede to The EU on The ECJ policing Settled Status.

 

[Hampster Gull]

Whatever. The fact is that the UK was (is?) faced with a glorious opportunity to be a leader of change and evolution across Europe, driving the development of the union with the support of its many friends and becoming, once again, a growing force in the world. So what is it doing? It's saying that because previous attempts to encourage change didn't go according to plan - in part because there wasn't a plan - then, rather than keep on trying it's going to turn and run away, its retreat disguised by the glory-glory anthems of small politicians and their PR operatives. Never has failure and decline been so brilliantly tarted up.

It’s a simple case of those who are stuck in a time warp wishing for things to be like they were, not so complex, vs those who have developed the ability to handle competing demands and the associated complexities with the ability to give and take

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Whatever. The fact is that the UK was (is?) faced with a glorious opportunity to be a leader of change and evolution across Europe, driving the development of the union with the support of its many friends and becoming, once again, a growing force in the world. So what is it doing? It's saying that because previous attempts to encourage change didn't go according to plan - in part because there wasn't a plan - then, rather than keep on trying it's going to turn and run away, its retreat disguised by the glory-glory anthems of small politicians and their PR operatives. Never has failure and decline been so brilliantly tarted up.

Delusional nonsense. Cameron went cap in hand to Merkel with the threat of UK leaving and he got very little and no indication a rethink of the EU's direction was possible. A remain vote would have been seen as endorsing the direction of travel/ same old same old. The best we could hope for was leading a second tier non-Eurozone* membership group.

*reminder for [MENTION=15360]nicko31[/MENTION] we are not in the Eurozone

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

House of Lords have done their job, back over to the Commons

The rebels will be plastered over Paul Dacre's rag soon as Enemies of the People 2.0.

they'll be fast asleep when we leave the EU , Just a token gesture bless em
regards
DR

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Delusional nonsense. Cameron went cap in hand to Merkel with the threat of UK leaving and he got very little and no indication a rethink of the EU's direction was possible. A remain vote would have been seen as endorsing the direction of travel/ same old same old. The best we could hope for was leading a second tier non-Eurozone* membership group.

*reminder for [MENTION=15360]nicko31[/MENTION] we are not in the Eurozone

Thank you. Confirmation of the point several of us have been making about the Brexiteer spirit. If you don't succeed, turn round and run. Get the rhetoric right and enough people will believe it's some sort of victory.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

We will chamge it if we stand together and fight and demand change. Together we are strong!

Mmmm ... either a drinker or a second/ third account. Maybe just young and incredibly naive

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Thank you. Confirmation of the point several of us have been making about the Brexiteer spirit. If you don't succeed, turn round and run. Get the rhetoric right and enough people will believe it's some sort of victory.

52%/ 48%, YEP YOU'RE RIGHT
regards
DR

 

[JC Footy Genius]

Thank you. Confirmation of the point several of us have been making about the Brexiteer spirit. If you don't succeed, turn round and run. Get the rhetoric right and enough people will believe it's some sort of victory.

Your welcome. Poor effort. You'll have to face the fact the vast majority of people who think this country is a bit s*** are on your side of the fence.

 

[nicko31]

Where did you lose yours?As you seem to think you're a bit of a smartarse,how about a game of spot the difference?

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One group represents the world's largest progressive trading block

The other seems to use most of its energy into maintaining a rather bizarre existence, when the Queens goes probably time to knock it on the head to be honest

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Your welcome. Poor effort. You'll have to face the fact the vast majority of people who think this country is a bit s*** are on your side of the fence.

The vast majority of people who think this country is a bit s--- voted Leave. It's why they did.

 

[larus]

One group represents the world's largest progressive trading block

The other seems to use most of its energy into maintaining a rather bizarre existence, when the Queens goes probably time to knock it on the head to be honest

Well, I know which group I think will generate higher economic growth in this century. And no, it's not the inward looking, protectionist EU. So many of the EU countries are basket cases 40% - 50% youth unemployment being a good example.

 

[larus]

There vast majority of people who think this country is a bit s--- voted Leave. It's why they did.

Totally wrong. The majority of people who voted were fed up of being dictated to by Brussels and the unelected fools (drunks) like Juncker. However, you can stick to your usual prejudice and not face facts, after all, that's what remainers do.

 

[nicko31]

There vast majority of people who think this country is a bit s--- voted Leave. It's why they did.

They did, the Victor Meldrew's who voted leave will still find something else sh1t about the country after Brexit, they'll never be content, searching a false nostalgia which actually was pretty sh1t

 

[GT49er]

No. Thats not what I said is it. Physically left, but I remain British. You lot ceased to be when you left.
What brexit is: We will not fight them on the beaches we will er...run of crying because we didn't get what we want!
I intend to stay and fight.

Yup. Somewhere the Brexiteers lost their britishness.

Whatever. The fact is that the UK was (is?) faced with a glorious opportunity to be a leader of change and evolution across Europe, driving the development of the union with the support of its many friends and becoming, once again, a growing force in the world. So what is it doing? It's saying that because previous attempts to encourage change didn't go according to plan - in part because there wasn't a plan - then, rather than keep on trying it's going to turn and run away, its retreat disguised by the glory-glory anthems of small politicians and their PR operatives. Never has failure and decline been so brilliantly tarted up.

Thank you. Confirmation of the point several of us have been making about the Brexiteer spirit. If you don't succeed, turn round and run. Get the rhetoric right and enough people will believe it's some sort of victory.

I've pretty much given up contributing to this thread. There is little point trying to debate with people whose basic fall-back position - and final retort in any debate which they aren't winning - is 'people who disagree with me on the EU are old, thick, right-wing, racist......and, err...wrong'. I do, however, pop in from time to time as it is rather amusing to read the desperate angst of some remainers (the ones who are really remoaners rather than remainers) and their outrage at being denied their entitlement.
But the last 24 hours have surpassed all previous efforts - the amount of desperate drivel in posts like the ones I've cited - wow, just wow!. Honestly, I haven't laughed so much since Liverpool put 9 past Palarse.
Please keep it up. I'll pop by for a chuckle now and again.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I didn't. True brits fight for what is right. You are just a scardy cat. The eu said boo and you ran off.

[MENTION=14132]Two Professors[/MENTION] is also an out and out proven liar.

 

[Ernest]

Daily Telegraph reporting that the U.K.’s proposal for the Irish border question is useless and unacceptable to the EU

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Well, I know which group I think will generate higher economic growth in this century.

You sound like Wayne Rooney before a World Cup, and we all know how that ends. When you have grown up, come and talk strength of economy with your friendly German resident. I’ll show you what growth is.