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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Blue3

Well-known member
Jan 27, 2014
5,834
Lancing
I read yesterday that a hard Brexit ie leaving with no deal and trading on WTO would mean the UK joining an elite group of only four countries that have no trade deals so trade on WTO they include North Korea
 




Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
I read yesterday that a hard Brexit ie leaving with no deal and trading on WTO would mean the UK joining an elite group of only four countries that have no trade deals so trade on WTO they include North Korea

Indeed. That trading bloc of 4 is known as the FIC - the ****ing Idiots Society.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,574
Gods country fortnightly
They knew five years ago there would be a shortfall of workers. Lack of preparation, once again Brexit gets the blame for everything.

What they knew 5 years ago that EU nationals would stop coming to Britain because we would leave the EU. Who knew?
 




Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
I read yesterday that a hard Brexit ie leaving with no deal and trading on WTO would mean the UK joining an elite group of only four countries that have no trade deals so trade on WTO they include North Korea

I think this article shows that elite group might know better than the NSC 'intelligentia'.

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Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
I was answering a post to someone else on the overstretched and unsustainable work levels of The NHS with their current staffing complement, whether they've risen since 2010 or not, and gave a direct example of one sector that I assist in a voluntary support group capacity again, having done so in the past - AKA the real world.

I'm afraid I wasn't referring to London or a flu Armageddon with my reply, let alone did I pull a diagram off the internet that doesn't show or mention rising patient numbers and demand since 2010 or falling targets and appears to be from January of this year anyway, not today as the report I mentioned earlier was. I took the post and the phrase 'capital' to mean 'NHS capital funding' rather than 'London'. Hope that clarifies things for you.

I posted that graph to perhaps address the constant whining about the vanishing NHS staff-anybody would think nobody ever retires or new staff ever recruited,listening to some on here.Mental Health on the South Coast has been an issue for some years,and the people who were 'running' it,and whoever recruited them,should bear a great deal of blame.Sorry,but I don't think it has anything whatsoever to do with Brexit.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,182
West is BEST
I posted that graph to perhaps address the constant whining about the vanishing NHS staff-anybody would think nobody ever retires or new staff ever recruited,listening to some on here.Mental Health on the South Coast has been an issue for some years,and the people who were 'running' it,and whoever recruited them,should bear a great deal of blame.Sorry,but I don't think it has anything whatsoever to do with Brexit.

You're talking utter bollocks again.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...e-numbers-fall-first-time-years-a8032306.html

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/mar/18/nhs-eu-nurses-quit-record-numbers

https://www.theguardian.com/society...h-workers-have-quit-the-nhs-since-brexit-vote

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/eu-nurses-midwives-leave-nhs_uk_59facc8ee4b0415a42097cfb

http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/12/nhs-f...-leaves-hospitals-40000-nurses-short-6704236/

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nurses-leaving-nhs-because-of-brexit-f0xkdgb7x

https://www.ft.com/content/7658ec98-202f-11e7-b7d3-163f5a7f229c

https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publications/articles/big-election-questions-brexit-workforce

https://www.tuc.org.uk/sites/default/files/brexit-TheNHS2.pdf

https://www.birmingham.ac.uk/research/perspective/nhs-and-brexit.aspx

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-41838426

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/health/nursing-midwifery-council-eu-uk-staff-leaving/

https://www.nursingtimes.net/24461.more?blocktitle=Brexit-and-nursing&contentID=24461
 




ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
15,168
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
I posted that graph to perhaps address the constant whining about the vanishing NHS staff-anybody would think nobody ever retires or new staff ever recruited,listening to some on here.Mental Health on the South Coast has been an issue for some years,and the people who were 'running' it,and whoever recruited them,should bear a great deal of blame.Sorry,but I don't think it has anything whatsoever to do with Brexit.

Yes, I blame other factors too, because recruitment and retention of all staff in The NHS has become a serious issue, but Brexit is a factor in this, as people in The NHS are saying themselves, as recruitment and retention of staff from overseas, particularly The EU, has fallen since June of last year and the future uncertain status of living and working in The UK is not helping to address this across The NHS, not just within The SPFT.
 
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Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
Have you applied?:lolol:

No....I didn't vote for Brexit...?

Nah you're right, it's a GOOD thing that we're in the same trading situation as NORTH KOREA. Ignore all those nasty experts and people with knowledge.
 






CheeseRolls

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 27, 2009
6,230
Shoreham Beach
I posted that graph to perhaps address the constant whining about the vanishing NHS staff-anybody would think nobody ever retires or new staff ever recruited,listening to some on here.Mental Health on the South Coast has been an issue for some years,and the people who were 'running' it,and whoever recruited them,should bear a great deal of blame.Sorry,but I don't think it has anything whatsoever to do with Brexit.

I am really enjoying this new "It has nothing to do with Brexit" argument. This crackpot obsession that every ill can be blamed on a combination of immigration and the EU, has dominated the government and media agenda for the last decade. Just maybe a government with a more balanced agenda might have made some progress in this area? Ten years on the only difference is that remoaners and their complete lack of blind faith are now also to blame for our continued sufferance of straight bananas.

Meanwhile it looks like we are negotiating our way to buying £53million worth of sovereignty. I am assuming this will be sold off in an eighties style British Gas extravaganza and those lucky enough to get a share will be able to make a killing in the medium term. We only need two or three more countries to leave the EU and their will be a major shortage of sovereignty being traded on the open market, forcing the price right up.
 










The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,182
West is BEST
get a grip you fool ! HOW ARE YOU GOING TO COPE:cry::cry::cry::cry:
regards
DR

The sad thing is, it's thick racists like you that will suffer the most in Brexit Britain. I'll be okay personally, I have the intelligence to adapt and flourish. It's dumb motheruckers like you that will lose out. And you voted for it.
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum


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