[Politics] Brexit

[Ludensian Gull]

Oh how dare you...where's the name calling?! You prick.

 

[Ludensian Gull]

I'm glad I can be a source of hope for some.

If you feel so strongly about the north / Midlands of England. Why the hell did you end up here ?

 

[CheeseRolls]

When I went (1980) it was 10%, now about 40%.

It is higher than Germany, but the sausage eaters have 24.6 of their workforce employed by the manufacturing sector, compared to 8.2% in the UK.

As for the reasons for the much smaller element of manufacturing in the UK, that is probably best covered in a separate name calling, point scoring thread. NSC NEEDS binfests, they pay the bills

I did some work with a German manufacturer a couple of years ago and was surprised to discover the guy answering the calls on the IT Help desk was a qualified electrician. That is the breadth that an apprenticeship covers. The UK equivalent is an unpaid internship, covering menial tasks.

Pretty sick of listening to people slagging of education, as if there is something wrong in trying to improve yourself. A university education may not make you intelligent, but looking down your nose at people trying to improve themselves does make you ignorant.

I have also covered a few uni open days in the last couple of years, with both my lads. The standards on courses are far in advance of what I was able to cover in the 80's.

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[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

If you feel so strongly about the north / Midlands of England. Why the hell did you end up here ?

He went to a crayons university?

 

[Ludensian Gull]

Do you know what, I have had a shit year year with my mrs being diagnosed with Cancer, and going in for another operation next Tuesday, I'm enjoying an evening in the sun and get you still get some **** moaning about politics . Tell you what , I'll swap my life for the majority of yours and see how you get on. .

 

[El Presidente]

I did some work with a German manufacturer a couple of years ago and was surprised to discover the guy answering the calls on the IT Help desk was a qualified electrician. That is the breadth that an apprenticeship covers. The UK equivalent is an unpaid internship, covering menial tasks.

Pretty sick of listening to people slagging of education, as if there is something wrong in trying to improve yourself. A university education may not make you intelligent, but looking down your nose at people trying to improve themselves does make you ignorant.

I have also covered a few uni open days in the last couple of years, with both my lads. The standards on courses are far in advance of what I was able to cover in the 80's.

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I've been an employability officer at uni, and talk to companies and institutions trying to find out what they want.

The same things come up all the time, problem solving skills, communication, ability to work independently and in a team, familiarity with word processing and spreadsheets, presentation skills and so on.

To a large extent these skills are subject agnostic, let's face it, all the facts are already on Google, it's the ability to apply knowledge that has value, the 'why' rather than the 'what', a focus on consequences and causes adds value to whatever you are doing.

There's still a need for STE(A)M courses of course, they are the bedrock of higher education.

 

[El Presidente]

Just because someone was born in Lincolnshire doesn't make us all thick , do you not understand that ? .If It does to you, then that says a lot about your attitude toward N/S divide

I always thought that Cumberland was thick, whereas Lincolnshire was more chipolata in style?

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

I've been an employability officer at uni, and talk to companies and institutions trying to find out what they want.

The same things come up all the time, problem solving skills, communication, ability to work independently and in a team, familiarity with word processing and spreadsheets, presentation skills and so on.

To a large extent these skills are subject agnostic, let's face it, all the facts are already on Google, it's the ability to apply knowledge that has value, the 'why' rather than the 'what', a focus on consequences and causes adds value to whatever you are doing.

There's still a need for STE(A)M courses of course, they are the bedrock of higher education.

The workplace, IMO, now needs people who offer skills, much more than knowledge.

 

[El Presidente]

The workplace, IMO, now needs people who offer skills, much more than knowledge.

Agree entirely, students seem to want facts though. It's a battle.

 

[Ludensian Gull]

I always thought that Cumberland was thick, whereas Lincolnshire was more chipolata in style?

Definitely more chipolata than thick

 

[GreersElbow]

Just because someone was born in Lincolnshire doesn't make us all thick , do you not understand that ? .If It does to you, then that says a lot about your attitude toward N/S divide

I love Lincolnshire, been my home for 4 years - some of the most beautiful landscapes in the country and full of genuine people.


Still bunch of thickos... oh Ludensian, I'm joking on that part...

 

[Ludensian Gull]

I love Lincolnshire, been my home for 4 years - some of the most beautiful landscapes in the country and full of genuine people.


Still bunch of thickos... oh Ludensian, I'm joking on that part...

We'll have to meet up for a beer , I'm sure we'll get on just fine . After all we both support the best team in the world , right

 

[Ludensian Gull]

I've had a bad year, p!ease forgive me for one drunken night

 

[GreersElbow]

I've had a bad year, p!ease forgive me for one drunken night

On a Monday night? Hope you're all good, Lud. All the best

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I have to say the past few pages have been a roller coaster of a read. Deft timing with the humour [MENTION=31]El Presidente[/MENTION].

 

[Ludensian Gull]

On a Monday night? Hope you're all good, Lud. All the best

Yep a Monday night , and I'm still getting grief of the Mrs

 

[Ludensian Gull]

I've polished off a bottle of gin , anyone else still awake& sober ?

 

[Ludensian Gull]

On a Monday night? Hope you're all good, Lud. All the best

I'm good Mr Elbow

 

[Trufflehound]

Probably more, education got better.

Did it?

There was also less universities.

*cough* There were fewer universities. *cough*

 

[nicko31]

When the Express starts printing Brexit DOOM you know we're in trouble

http://www.express.co.uk/finance/ci...ens-Euro-EUR-house-price-growth-four-year-low

Meanwhile huge drops in sales of cars last month compared to a year ago compared to a year ago

Vauxhall down 41%
Peugeot down 30%
Ford down 23%
Citroen down 26%
Fiat down 44%

Meanwhile Audi, BMW, Merc, Aston, Land Rover & Porsche doing well or very well. It becoming increasingly clear who are the winners and losers from Brexit.