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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Herr Tubthumper

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Well done, who would of known, that was at the forefront of yours and everyone elses mind as we entered the ballot box .......

Why do you twist things? It clearly wasn't the forefront of my mind and I never said I was. But, like a lot of people who followed this referendum I was aware of it. This is all.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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If you want to pick a fight about the virtues of the EU, may I suggest not picking unemployment, the region is a comparative basket case ....

Looks pretty healthy outside my window.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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You had a lot to say prior, during and after, show me a post pre referendum where you outlined this to us, you were cock sure you had it in the bag, but you lost, I cannot recall one remainer citing this as advisory pre referendum, not one, but if you can show me then fill yer boots ?

What exactly is the point you are trying to make? You asked, I answered. Simple?
 


BigGully

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Sep 8, 2006
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Why do you twist things? It clearly wasn't the forefront of my mind and I never said I was. But, like a lot of people who followed this referendum I was aware of it. This is all.


You were aware that it was just advisory, you're kiddin' me, why then were you and perhaps still are so full of loathing and contempt for the result if it was just a casual advisory issue all along, find me one post that referred to it.
 






BigGully

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3 years of continually falling unemployment is not a tiny time frame, it is not anywhere near irrelevant, and certainly represents a falling trend, don't be a twit.
High unemployment in the countries you mention is in large part due to those nations over extending their credit and the problems of the Euro, which if you check your wallet, you will remember we are not part of, and have no obligation to join, so not a convincing argument for leaving.

If you care to go back just a little before you selective 3 year period, then the overall average doesnt tell us much, more just reaffirms what a basket case the whole region is, especially when you look at each member state.

Since when have you started using the debacle of the Euro and an unsustainable extension of credit in some key member states as some reason to Remain, thats back to front.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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You were aware that it was just advisory, you're kiddin' me, why then were you and perhaps still are so full of loathing and contempt for the result if it was just a casual advisory issue all along, find me one post that referred to it.

Yes. I was aware. I went to two political meetings about the referendum and this point was made at both. It was also in the press. If you were not aware fine but please don't judge me on your standards.

Loathing and contempt? Where did this come from? I think it's an totally and utterly idiotic decision and I don't care for the people who voted for it but contempt, no.

You just seem to be spouting any ideas and unfounded nonsense which comes into your head now, and not just with me. Have you been on the sauce?
 
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Herr Tubthumper

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Well you have the Alps blocking your view to southern Europe.

Ah, you are comparing the U.K. to Italy. Of course the U.K. is doing better than Italy; what does it say when you need to use them as your bench mark though? I like to aim a little higher.
 




BigGully

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Yes. I was aware. I went to two political meetings about the referendum and this point was made at both. It was also in the press. If you were not aware fine but please don't judge me on your standards.

Loathing and contempt? Where did this come from? I think it's an totally and utterly idiotic decision and I don't care for the people who voted for it but contempt, no.

You just seem to be spouting any nonsense which comes into your head now. Have you been on the sauce?

What do you call that then, for me thats most extreme view on offer, you have gone off piste from disagreeing and disliking anothers opinion, to having a personal loathing of everyone that didnt vote the way you did, how that isnt the worst varient of contempt I dont know what is.
 


BigGully

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Ah, you are comparing the U.K. to Italy. Of course the U.K. is doing better than Italy; what does it say when you need to use them as your bench mark though? I like to aim a little higher.

No I am comparing your rather selfish view, in response to the EU unemployment figures of 'looks pretty healthy outside my window' ...............
 


Herr Tubthumper

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What do you call that then, for me thats most extreme view on offer, you have gone off piste from disagreeing and disliking anothers opinion, to having a personal loathing of everyone that didnt vote the way you did, how that isnt the worst varient of contempt I dont know what is.

Saying you don't care for something does not carry the same weight as saying you have contempt. Google the definition or dust down that dictionary you have .
 




Green Cross Code Man

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Mar 30, 2006
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No I am comparing your rather selfish view, in response to the EU unemployment figures of 'looks pretty healthy outside my window' ...............
A case of 'I'm alright Jack'.

And wow, I can understand and sympathise with remain voters. But this, wow again, so intolerant.

'and I don't care for the people who voted for it'
 


Herr Tubthumper

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No I am comparing your rather selfish view, in response to the EU unemployment figures of 'looks pretty healthy outside my window' ...............

4.2% looks very healthy. I can't help it, it's a fact.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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A case of 'I'm alright Jack'.

And wow, I can understand and sympathise with remain voters. But this, wow again, so intolerant.

'and I don't care for the people who voted for it'

You voted for it, you got what you want. Why the **** should I care for you? Do you need or want me to care for you? No. so stop being so precious.
 




Green Cross Code Man

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Ah, you are comparing the U.K. to Italy. Of course the U.K. is doing better than Italy; what does it say when you need to use them as your bench mark though? I like to aim a little higher.
Germany is a wonderful country whose economy is great and there is much to admire about the German business model with greater worker involvement etc. However it is more useful for us Brits to compare Britain against the EU as it is the EU that we voted to leave, not Germany.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Germany is a wonderful country whose economy is great and there is much to admire about the German business model with greater worker involvement etc. However it is more useful for us Brits to compare Britain against the EU as it is the EU that we voted to leave, not Germany.

Fine. But personally I feel you should compare yourself with politically, culturally and economically similar countries.
 


Green Cross Code Man

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Mar 30, 2006
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You voted for it, you got what you want. Why the **** should I care for you? Do you need or want me to care for you? No. so stop being so precious.
Again, keep it coming. So so bitter. Must have hit a very tender nerve. If I care about a country, my country, of course I care for the people in it. If I were to use your kind of language and say 'I don't care for Muslims' simply because I didn't share their view, you would be full of self righteous indignation and frothing on about racism.
 


BigGully

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Saying you don't care for something does not carry the same weight as saying you have contempt. Google the definition or dust down that dictionary you have .

To somehow find a personal dislike or not care for a group of people based on their preferred voting option in a referendum on whether to stay or remain in the EU, is just the oddest thing and does you no favours.
 




Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
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Eastbourne
To somehow find a personal dislike or not care for a group of people based on their preferred voting option in a referendum on whether to stay or remain in the EU, is just the oddest thing and does you no favours.
It is very odd and kind of betrays socialist principles. I thought Herr was a socialist. Perhaps not.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Again, keep it coming. So so bitter. Must have hit a very tender nerve. If I care about a country, my country, of course I care for the people in it. If I were to use your kind of language and say 'I don't care for Muslims' simply because I didn't share their view, you would be full of self righteous indignation and frothing on about racism.

And quite rightly I would. You shouldn't differentiate based on religion. It's perfectly fine to differentiate based on people's views and opinions though.

So, do you want me to care for you?
 


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