Breast feeding - A time and a place?

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SussexHoop

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Re: Re: Breast feeding - A time and a place?

Fran Hagarty said:
Full marks to her for breast feeding rather than using bottles of formula milk. The latter is what I find offensive. How come mothers have breastfed their babies for thosands of years but now some mothers see fit to use some inferior substitute? Sorry if I'm on my high horse but it's something I feel really strongly about. I could go on with the whys and wherefors, but this isn't really the place to do so!

Sadly not all mothers are able to breastfeed their babies. My wife did for 2 weeks before getting Mastitis and at that point, she had to stop and thus started the daily dredgery of formula milk.

To make matters worse, her boobs continued to produce milk, became incredibly large and painful and expressing didn't help. The bigger they got, the greater the pain so I never did cop a feel.:down:
 


Mrs Coach

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Re: Re: Re: Breast feeding - A time and a place?

SussexHoop said:
Sadly not all mothers are able to breastfeed their babies. My wife did for 2 weeks before getting Mastitis and at that point, she had to stop and thus started the daily dredgery of formula milk.

To make matters worse, her boobs continued to produce milk, became incredibly large and painful and expressing didn't help. The bigger they got, the greater the pain so I never did cop a feel.:down:

Savoy Cabbage leaves inside the bra has never failed to relieve this to my knowledge (although after a few minutes the leaves start to 'steam' and you smell like a sunday roast!)
Seriously. I'm not kidding!
 


sams dad

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I'll never forget a comment made by a teenage girl when my wife mentioned that she had breastfed our children :
" Oh I couldn't do that . It's so unnatural ":thud:
 


Re: Re: Re: Re: Breast feeding - A time and a place?

Mrs Coach said:
Savoy Cabbage leaves inside the bra has never failed to relieve this to my knowledge (although after a few minutes the leaves start to 'steam' and you smell like a sunday roast!)
Seriously. I'm not kidding!

Doesn't always work, I'm afraid. My partner had awful mastitis and tried everything with no success. In the end, she had to have a bloody great hole cut out of her breast. Although it didn't stop her feeding from the other breast (she's a tough cookie!), it gives me pause for thought when I see mothers bottle-feeding. They may have chosen to do it - but they may have no choice.

The answer to the original question is, the time and place for breastfeeding is when the baby is hungry, and wherever you are when that happens.

I don't know what the law is south of the border, but up here it is a criminal offence to prevent or attempt to hinder a woman from breastfeeding anywhere.
 




GNF on Tour

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I think if a ladee gets her funbags out on a train to feed the brat then she should have the common decency to offer her charlies to the rest of the carriage - seems fair.
 




El Presidente

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tedebear said:

I breastfed to a routine. I knew when Arthur would get hungry so managed to make sure I was at home or in an appropriate place.


But in fairness Tedebear he is now 27 and should be able to wait.
 




El Presidente

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clapham_gull said:
Why anyone would have the SLIGHTEST problem with it is beyond me.

If she was a MOSLEM woman I could imagine one or two NSC'ers who would be foaming at the mouth.
 


Starry

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You should keep nursing and pumping from the affected breast/s if you have mastitis. I know it hurts awfully but it doesn't last forever. Express from that breast to ensure it's empty after baby has fed, plenty of hot showers and compresses to keep things loose in there, feel for the blocked duct yourself and as the baby feeds massage that duct, change the position you nurse in. And of course, cabbage leaves.

Stopping nursing completely to treat mastitis is a uhm, I don't know what to call it, but for weeks before your body has been used to producing all that milk and all of a sudden there is no baby sucking, you are still producing that milk, you have mastitis and now all that extra milk in a sore breast.
 


tedebear

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Re: Re: Breast feeding - A time and a place?

Fran Hagarty said:
Full marks to her for breast feeding rather than using bottles of formula milk. The latter is what I find offensive. How come mothers have breastfed their babies for thosands of years but now some mothers see fit to use some inferior substitute? Sorry if I'm on my high horse but it's something I feel really strongly about. I could go on with the whys and wherefors, but this isn't really the place to do so!

I think you'll find there are some women who physically can't breast feed, this is not a new phenomena - think of lactation nurses in the olden days - or these children simply would have withered and failed to thrive.

Formula isn't as good as breast milk, but its certainly not as bad as you paint it out to be.
 




tedebear

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Starry said:
You should keep nursing and pumping from the affected breast/s if you have mastitis. I know it hurts awfully but it doesn't last forever. Express from that breast to ensure it's empty after baby has fed, plenty of hot showers and compresses to keep things loose in there, feel for the blocked duct yourself and as the baby feeds massage that duct, change the position you nurse in. And of course, cabbage leaves.

Stopping nursing completely to treat mastitis is a uhm, I don't know what to call it, but for weeks before your body has been used to producing all that milk and all of a sudden there is no baby sucking, you are still producing that milk, you have mastitis and now all that extra milk in a sore breast.

I'm not going to go into my personal experience but that didn't work for me. A trip to hospital was needed.
 


Starry

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tedebear said:
I'm not going to go into my personal experience but that didn't work for me. A trip to hospital was needed.

Here too. They had to knock me out in early april to operate.
 


tedebear

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Starry said:
Here too. They had to knock me out in early april to operate.

Thats why Arthur had to get used to bottles or get exceptionally hungry. So without formula I have no idea what would have happened - as Worthing Hospital only allows donated breast milk to be used on site, and he was at home!
 




Starry

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tedebear said:
Thats why Arthur had to get used to bottles or get exceptionally hungry. So without formula I have no idea what would have happened - as Worthing Hospital only allows donated breast milk to be used on site, and he was at home!

I had a frozen stash from back in the early days when I was producing waaaaaay too much milk so Romilly had that from a SNS finger feeding thing because she was quite happy to go hungry rather than take a bottle.

The hospital I was in does not have a milk bank, but then it doesn't have a NICU/SCBU either and I think if you have one you generally have the other.
 






Perry's Tracksuit Bottoms

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tedebear said:
I'd hazard a guess that most of our mothers and definately our grandmothers fed in private. So why the change?

...and their Mothers and Grandmothers were probably unable to even be seen to be pregnant in public without causing a public stir. Things move on, and thank goodness.
 






tedebear

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Lord Bracknell said:
In those days, they still had "Women Only" compartments on some trains.

These were originally introduced for breast-feeding mothers.

I couldn't quite believe that (breastfeeding was never seen in public in the late 1800's), although I knew they had Ladies carriages.....so did a little googling and found the following quite hilarious in parts articles:

When women only compartments were introduced in 1840 it was to protect women travelling alone from gross misconduct by gentlemen etc.....

institute of Railway Studies
 


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