Bournemouth willing to let Murray leave on a free

[Guy Fawkes]

Total staff costs for the club, including directors' renumeration for the 2014/15 season was £20.614.074 according to my interpretation of the accounts. This covered a monthly average of 257 employees including 61 players (532 part time employees were employed for match days)

And we have fans willing the club to spend around £2m a season (or around 10% of our total wages spend) on a 33 year old striker who hasn't played regular football for a good few years now, will offer no resale value, and is unlikely to play in the final year of his contract (if we have him on a 2 year deal) if we are promoted to the PL at he end of season 1. (or possibly if unable to stay fit into season 2)

Add to that that Murray wasn't that popular when he was with us previously (deemed lazy, didn't clap the fans, wanted to move back up north, etc) and ask yourself why he would want to put the effort in now?

There is far better value out there to be had and hopefully, given our near miss this season, we are able to complete those transfers because we are seen as a good move rather than relegation battlers like last season (when going for the likes of Jonathan Calleri)

 

[sir albion]

We wont get a better striker or one that practically guarantees the goals that Murray would.

Its wether we can find someone as good who is a lot younger or cheaper.... im not sure thats possible.

I wait to be pleasantly suprised by whatever route we take

He won't guarantee you goals and he's getting on a bit....Best get someone younger in with potential rather than risk money on ancient Murray.

Move on people seriously

 

[Thunder Bolt]

How the fook and GM become a guaranteed goalscorer let alone and 20 goal a season man.

If you took away all the penalties palace dived for, and the hat-tricks (maybe even a 4 goal game), at the Albion, you're left with an awful lot of Hemedesque droughts.



Not to mention the fact that whatever Bournemouth have paid and are currently paying him has no bearing on the Albion.
It's completely irrelevant to the discussion.

"We'll pay you £x to play for Brighton"
"But my client is earning £xxx at Bournemouth"
"Then stay at Bournemouth, toodles"

This.

 

[drew]

Total staff costs for the club, includig directors' renumeration for the 2014/15 season was £20.614.074 according to my interpretation of the accounts. This covered a monthly average of 257 employees including 61 players (532 part time employees were employed for match days)

And we have fans willing the club to spend around £2m a season (or around 10% of our total wages spend) on a 33 year old striker who hasn't played regular football for a good few years now, will offer no resale value, and is unlikely to play in the final year of his contract (if we have him on a 2 year deal) if we are promoted to the PL at he end of season 1. (or possibly if unable to stay fit into season 2)

Add to that that Murray wasn't that popular when he was with us previously (deemed lazy, didn't clap the fans, wanted to move back up north, etc) and ask yourself why he would want to put the effort in now?

There is far better value out there to be had and hopefully, given our near miss this season, we are able to complete those transfers because we are seen as a good move rather than relegation battlers like last season (when going for the likes of Jonathan Calleri)

Idiots deemed him lazy because they didn't take into account his injuries, particularly his back injury which was so apparent when he couldn't track back with Delph against Leeds. He was one of our best defenders at corners.

As for the £2m, where did you get that figure from. That is the equivalent of £40k per week.

 

[Stat Brother]

If only the Albion had saved the money they received for Murray it could pay Bournemouth from the 'Murray-Mint'...




...oh wait.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Idiots deemed him lazy because they didn't take into account his injuries, particularly his back injury which was so apparent when he couldn't track back with Delph against Leeds. He was one of our best defenders at corners.

As for the £2m, where did you get that figure from. That is the equivalent of £40k per week.

Quoted earlier in the thread (wages + transfer fee)

Ok, take the £30k a week he is on at Bournemouth, (they want someone to take over his contract to get him off their books and he doesn't have to take a pay cut or cost himself money by agreeing to less) - that £30k per week is the equivalent to £1.56m a year or around 7.57% of our entire clubs wage bill for all staff

They may have been idiots, but he still got a lot of stick from our fans when here. Why do you think he would jump at the chance to return and potentially receive as much stick (or even possibly more) from the very same fans again? (waste of a wage, not doing enough to justify his income, etc.....)

 

[glasfryn]

He's contracted to Bournemouth for two more years, or in other words, till he is 35. He is currently on his last big contract.

At the moment, he is due to earn £3m over the next two years at Bournemouth and they want to get him off the payroll. Pay them £1.5m which they use to pay off half of his contract. He signs for us for £15k a week which is roughly £750k a year; or to put it another way, £1.5m over two years. Bournemouth get him off their books at no cost to them (but no gain), we get a proven goal scorer at a relatively modest fee and GM still earns £3m over the next two years without upsetting our pay scales! Win Win Win all round. What's not to like. The point is that he is unlikely to sign for any club for more than he is earning now so he is always going to look to Bournemouth to make up the difference which they are not prepared to fund.

or alternatively tell them they can keep him!!!!

 

[drew]

Quoted earlier in the thread (wages + transfer fee)

Ok, take the £30k a week he is on at Bournemouth, (they want someone to take over his contract to get him off their books and he doesn't have to take a pay cut or cost himself money by agreeing to less) - that £30k per week is the equivalent to £1.56m a year or around 7.57% of our entire clubs wage bill for all staff

They may have been idiots, but he still got a lot of stick from our fans when here. Why do you think he would jump at the chance to return and potentially receive as much stick (or even possibly more) from the very same fans again? (waste of a wage, not doing enough to justify his income, etc.....)

I think more fans will remember the 30 goals he scored in his last season than when he was injured during the previous couple.

 

[Stat Brother]

I think more fans will remember the 30 goals he scored in his last season than when he was injured during the previous couple.

And if they've got really good memories they might remember the 22 goal season for the Albion.

But then again that's all they have to remember from GM's entire career as a goal scorer.

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

Quoted earlier in the thread (wages + transfer fee)

Ok, take the £30k a week he is on at Bournemouth, (they want someone to take over his contract to get him off their books and he doesn't have to take a pay cut or cost himself money by agreeing to less) - that £30k per week is the equivalent to £1.56m a year or around 7.57% of our entire clubs wage bill for all staff

They may have been idiots, but he still got a lot of stick from our fans when here. Why do you think he would jump at the chance to return and potentially receive as much stick (or even possibly more) from the very same fans again? (waste of a wage, not doing enough to justify his income, etc.....)

+13.8% employers NI + pension costs. Hope this helps?

 

[dazzer6666]

Another 3 goals would have seen us up automatically. If the Premier League is worth £180 million a year, then spending £3million on a player that could and should score 20 goals a season in this division, is not a bad gamble!

We were the division's top scorers. Conceding a couple less would have been easier.

 

[Hampster Gull]

We were the division's top scorers. Conceding a couple less would have been easier.

They are connected though

 

[BensGrandad]

Conceeding 1 less would have done either at home to Boro, Burnley or Derby and we would have been promoted.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Conceeding 1 less would have done either at home to Boro, Burnley or Derby and we would have been promoted.

Or conceding 1 less v Ipswich or Wolves at home, or 1 less in any of our score draws.

 

[Deano's Invisible Pants]

Seems to me the cost of signing Murray will be £3m, ie if he is on £30k a week then that is the value of his contract at Bournemouth for the next two years. Presumably he is going to want the same pay off so if we paid him £15k a week and a fee to Bournemouth of £1.5m they use that to pay off that part of his contract and he comes here on a lower salary that doesn't upset our pay scales. We get a proven goalscorer at this level and Bournemouth clear their decks at, effectively, no cost.

The question is then whether CH wants him or not and whether they think he is fit enough to play at least one season! I'm sure they new BZ wasn't going to play regularly and I'm sure GM would and score more goals.

There is a big difference here between GM and BZ. I have it on very good authority that BZ was on a 'pay per play' deal and was not a top earner. With GM, it'll be a real judgement call on whether he is worth the money, in a squad where the differences in players' money is currently relatively small - no doubt one of the reasons for the great team spirit last season.

 

[Gazwag]

Conceeding 1 less would have done either at home to Boro, Burnley or Derby and we would have been promoted.

Or conceding 1 less v Ipswich or Wolves at home, or 1 less in any of our score draws.

How would anybody know this - had we gone to Boro needing a draw who can say we wouldn't lose - had a 20 goal striker been purchased he might have broken his leg in his first tackle.

Had Conner Goldson kicked the ball the other side of the post v Wolves, might MK Dons have kicked their penalty the inside of the post with the net result being a point less.

What if's are pointless debating.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

There is a big difference here between GM and BZ. I have it on very good authority that BZ was on a 'pay per play' deal and was not a top earner. With GM, it'll be a real judgement call on whether he is worth the money, in a squad where the differences in players' money is currently relatively small - no doubt one of the reasons for the great team spirit last season.

If Murray's unwilling to accept 27p a fortnight, plus a packet of Cornish fudge if we get promoted he can do one. We've got bigger fish to fry.

 

[Grassman]

What if's are pointless debating.

Mmmh, but what if they are.

 

[Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!]

How would anybody know this - had we gone to Boro needing a draw who can say we wouldn't lose - had a 20 goal striker been purchased he might have broken his leg in his first tackle.

Had Conner Goldson kicked the ball the other side of the post v Wolves, might MK Dons have kicked their penalty the inside of the post with the net result being a point less.

What if's are pointless debating.

Quite, not to mention the entropic weakness in all such nonsense.

 

[Prince Monolulu]

Debate the 'ifs' all night, we're still playing in The Championship at the start of next season.