[Albion] Bournemouth - The table does not lie!

[Iggle Piggle]

Spot on, oliver is one of the best refs around and I thought did a great job in terms of not stifling the game and trying to play advantage.

When people say we would be up in arms if the pen we got was given against us, I disagree. The only anger should be directed at the defender for his awful push on Pedro leaving Kepa with no chance

It's fine margins. If I'm a Bournemouth fan, I'd be saying that Pedro bought the pen (there's no way he's getting to the ball after he runs into Kepa) and pointing to a - admittedly point blank - ball running down JPVH arm in the penalty area. On another day, we concede a pen and don't get one. Both fall into the Umpires call bracket.

Oliver was consistent with his cards and decisions last night whilst keeping the game flowing. Good ref performance with the added bonus we got the borderline descions in our favour.

 

[Shorehamkid]

I tell you one thing, us v them would make for a fitting (and no doubt brilliantly entertaining) FA Cup Final…

Would love to see it myself, even if I had no affinity with either club I’d sooner see that than a Manchester Derby again.

 

[ACobweb]

AFC Plucky used to really get on my tits but now Smug Eddie is gone this is overridden by the fact that, like us, their presence in the top half of the PL clearly annoys a lot of pundits and supporters who'd rather it was some formerly big northern clubs who now flounder around in the championship instead.

Because neither of us are branded as MASSIVE GIANTS OF THE GAME, I doubt many neutrals tuned in to last night's match, more fool them it was a fantastic spectacle.

 

[Simster]

It's fine margins. If I'm a Bournemouth fan, I'd be saying that Pedro bought the pen (there's no way he's getting to the ball after he runs into Kepa) and pointing to a - admittedly point blank - ball running down JPVH arm in the penalty area. On another day, we concede a pen and don't get one. Both fall into the Umpires call bracket.

Oliver was consistent with his cards and decisions last night whilst keeping the game flowing. Good ref performance with the added bonus we got the borderline descions in our favour.

There's no way that JPVH "handball" was being given, ever (well, aside from the early days of VAR). It's point blank and even then it barely brushes him. "Umpires call" is a massive stretch for that one.

Our one was more subjective. I agree with you that it was unlikely JP was getting there after winning the race to the ball, but the fact is that he won the race to the ball and was then taken out. The keeper (and defender who pushed him) gave the ref a decision to make. IMO, if that had been waved away, we'd have been more aggrieved than Bournemouth fans are that it was given.

 

[Seagull on the Hill]

*pats the uncompromising underdogs on the head*

Or not. F**k ‘em. The Plucky Russian Billionaires.

They are Jordan’s tits.

They’re a two for one on Malibu in a club that only plays Heart’s playlist.

They’re the smug kid with the horrific hidden background.

They’re a holiday to Dubai on tick.

*pats the uncompromising underdogs on the head*

Or not. F**k ‘em. The Plucky Russian Billionaires.

They are Jordan’s tits.

They’re a two for one on Malibu in a club that only plays Heart’s playlist.

They’re the smug kid with the horrific hidden background.

They’re a holiday to Dubai on tick.

Get off the fence GB, and say how you really feel.
Do you like them or not ?

 

[Hamilton]

One of the best opponents we've faced this season.

No idea how we got 6 points off them.

Agree with that. Not seen a better team here yet.

Yet. We have a team coming down on the last day of the season who might prove a little tough to beat.

 

[Han Solo]

It's fine margins. If I'm a Bournemouth fan, I'd be saying that Pedro bought the pen (there's no way he's getting to the ball after he runs into Kepa) and pointing to a - admittedly point blank - ball running down JPVH arm in the penalty area. On another day, we concede a pen and don't get one. Both fall into the Umpires call bracket.

Oliver was consistent with his cards and decisions last night whilst keeping the game flowing. Good ref performance with the added bonus we got the borderline descions in our favour.

I think the Joao Pedro case is one where he should not get the penalty in the best of worlds, since he's (as usual, unfortunately) more keen on getting the penalty than getting a shot off. But strictly following the rules, I think its a pen (and I'm not someone looking at ref decisions with tinted glasses).

The Van Hecke situation is never a penalty.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

I think the Joao Pedro case is one where he should not get the penalty in the best of worlds, since he's (as usual, unfortunately) more keen on getting the penalty than getting a shot off. But strictly following the rules, I think its a pen (and I'm not someone looking at ref decisions with tinted glasses).

The referee applied the law correctly (and consistently with similar incidents). But the law is bollocks. No way should you be able to get a penalty for that.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

We've had history with them for over 50 years. They're in the same bin as Reading and to a lesser extent, Luton and Swindon.

I don't care how good we were, they were or the game was, I can guarantee you that the magnanimous posts would not be flowing on here if we'd lost that game. I wouldn't mind betting their forums are full of bitter, disparaging comments towards us.

Yeah I accept the history. I remember matches with them in the 70s as well but they never resonated with my child's mind in the way palace did, nor did the following years change my mind in any way. I suppose if one is in far West Sussex, they would seem more relevant and the same for Pompey who are much closer, but growing up the a few miles to the east of Brighton, both clubs were not in my radar, especially Pompey who we hardly ever played. I thought the matches against Pompey though had a lot more frisson.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

I like their manager and the style of football they play, but as a club … they can f*** off and then f*** off again.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

The two stand-out poor decisions Oliver made (from what I think I saw live - I've seen neither replay):

1. To NOT book JPVH in the first half, when he took a heavy touch on the edge of our box, then went flying in on their lad. Play carried on, and they had a presentable opportunity - and I think he must have forgotten to go back and get his card out. Horrible challenge.

2. To not give a free kick to Baleba, for a blatant pull-back, in the build up to the big late chance, where Bart made the close-range save. I swear he actually put his whistle to his mouth at first, then changed his mind. Half our players momentarily stopped, because the fould was so clear and he'd looked to be calling it.

 

[chaileyjem]

Agree with that. Not seen a better team here yet.

Yet. We have a team coming down on the last day of the season who might prove a little tough to beat.

Strongly imagine and hope that they will be well on the proverbial beach by then…

 

[Guinness Boy]

2. To not give a free kick to Baleba, for a blatant pull-back, in the build up to the big late chance, where Bart made the close-range save. I swear he actually put his whistle to his mouth at first, then changed his mind. Half our players momentarily stopped, because the fould was so clear and he'd looked to be calling it.

Have just watched the extended highlights. Can be very little doubt about our penalty, Howson barges Pedro from behind into Kepa who takes him down. Yes, he probably won't score the way the ball's going but take your pick from two fouls. To give handball against JPVH would have been incredibly harsh though. I don't think these are blue and white spec decisions, they are obvious from the video.

But also obvious is the above so well spotted and remembered @hans kraay fan club the highlights show this very clearly.

They also show what a player Kluivert is. Has the potential to be as good as or even better than his dad. The shot he has on him is something else. They'll do well to hang onto him in the summer.

 

[Shaktarman]

Astonishing that people are still moaning at the ref. He made a few mistakes, but not many. Meanwhile he managed to let a very physical game flow while retaining complete control of the players. I'm calling it as one of the best refereeing performances of the season at the Amex.

Astonishing? No, he was poor and gave them almost everything for me - terrible. To not give that free kick right in front of him for a two handed shirt pull is the only astonishing thing here. Very nearly cost us 2 points.

 

[JBizzle]

Have just watched the extended highlights. Can be very little doubt about our penalty, Howson barges Pedro from behind into Kepa who takes him down. Yes, he probably won't score the way the ball's going but take your pick from two fouls. To give handball against JPVH would have been incredibly harsh though. I don't think these are blue and white spec decisions, they are obvious from the video.

But also obvious is the above so well spotted and remembered @hans kraay fan club the highlights show this very clearly.

They also show what a player Kluivert is. Has the potential to be as good as or even better than his dad. The shot he has on him is something else. They'll do well to hang onto him in the summer.

True. Super player, would be even higher in my books if he didn't spend so much of his time windmilling his arms in the ref's face after every decision, but then we have Pedro, who's also an incredible talent if he didn't spend 40% of every match writhing is "agony" on the floor.

Also, I agree on the pen. It doesn't actually matter where the ball was either, if you knock the ball past a player anywhere else on the field and then get cleaned out, it's still a foul. Do I think you should get a near guaranteed goal when the other outcome is a goal kick? No, but penalties are almost always FAR too high a price to pay for the majority of decisions in the game. That's just a personal gripe of mine. Basically giving a team a free goal for the most minor of infractions annoys the hell out of me

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

It's fine margins. If I'm a Bournemouth fan, I'd be saying that Pedro bought the pen (there's no way he's getting to the ball after he runs into Kepa) and pointing to a - admittedly point blank - ball running down JPVH arm in the penalty area. On another day, we concede a pen and don't get one. Both fall into the Umpires call bracket.

Oliver was consistent with his cards and decisions last night whilst keeping the game flowing. Good ref performance with the added bonus we got the borderline descions in our favour.

Show me in the laws of the game where a ball is mentioned in the act of fouling. Utter made up

 

[Thunder Bolt]

True. Super player, would be even higher in my books if he didn't spend so much of his time windmilling his arms in the ref's face after every decision, but then we have Pedro, who's also an incredible talent if he didn't spend 40% of every match writhing is "agony" on the floor.

Also, I agree on the pen. It doesn't actually matter where the ball was either, if you knock the ball past a player anywhere else on the field and then get cleaned out, it's still a foul. Do I think you should get a near guaranteed goal when the other outcome is a goal kick? No, but penalties are almost always FAR too high a price to pay for the majority of decisions in the game. That's just a personal gripe of mine. Basically giving a team a free goal for the most minor of infractions annoys the hell out of me

I agree with @Guinness Boy, and said so on the match thread. Pedro didn't knock the ball past Kepa, Howson pushed him in the back so when Kepa rushed out he was already losing his balance. The foul was on Howson, and Kepa just exacerbated it by flooring Pedro.
The extended highlights show it several times.

 

[ROSM]

The two stand-out poor decisions Oliver made (from what I think I saw live - I've seen neither replay):

1. To NOT book JPVH in the first half, when he took a heavy touch on the edge of our box, then went flying in on their lad. Play carried on, and they had a presentable opportunity - and I think he must have forgotten to go back and get his card out. Horrible challenge.

2. To not give a free kick to Baleba, for a blatant pull-back, in the build up to the big late chance, where Bart made the close-range save. I swear he actually put his whistle to his mouth at first, then changed his mind. Half our players momentarily stopped, because the fould was so clear and he'd looked to be calling it.

Fair points

The 1st was generally consistent with how he reffed the rest of the game and perhaps as it was early JPVH got lucky

The 2nd , I didn't realise the pull til I saw a still of it on the way home. I will have a look at the extended highlights later but great spot from you to have noticed it real time

 

[Flounce]

AFC Plucky used to really get on my tits but now Smug Eddie is gone this is overridden by the fact that, like us, their presence in the top half of the PL clearly annoys a lot of pundits and supporters who'd rather it was some formerly big northern clubs who now flounder around in the championship instead.

The fact that their owner is a Trump fanboy and sponsor, when it suits him, stops me wishing them well. I detested them when Smug was their manager. No denying they are now a force to be reckoned with though.

 

[SeagullinExile]

Astonishing? No, he was poor and gave them almost everything for me - terrible. To not give that free kick right in front of him for a two handed shirt pull is the only astonishing thing here. Very nearly cost us 2 points.

Tbf. I’m pretty sure VAR would of looked at that if they had scored.