Boris Johnson 8pm televised address - official match thread

[Stat Brother]

Hmmm. That I remember but I also have a clear recollection of him announcing the first lockdown with that exact justification/promise

Oh gosh I can hardly keep up with the false promises from this year, let alone a year ago.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

The opinion polls in Scotland are now consistently showing a majority in favour of independence with Savanta ComRes, Ipsos MORI and Panelbase all reporting a double digit lead for independence in November and December.

The last time Union supporters were in the majority - by just 1% - was on 26th March. Now, just over 8 months later, the same polling organisation Panelbase is reporting and 11% lead so a huge swing of 12%.

Therefore, regardless of your personal politics, Boris's dithering is damaging the future of the Union. I think Brexit and now Covid have changed the game - these two straws may have broken the camel's back of decades of Scotland being disregarded by successive Tory governments.

It is now inherently risky to remain in the Union whilst outside the EU, and so the high risk strategy of leaving the UK that was such a big factor in 2014 IndyRef is now not such a big issue.

We’ll see. Don’t want to derail the thread but something tells me that the currency issue won’t be going anywhere regardless of what the anti Boris gang want to believe.

 

[Guinness Boy]

But everyone was told it would be ok, right up to the eleventh hour.

At the risk of sounding like my father, if Boris told you to jump off a cliff....?

 

[Butch Willykins]

Just taking it away from football for a minute, can someone explain why all schools, colleges are closed but nurseries stay open?

Because Boris has a nursery aged kid and doesn’t fancy having him at home!

 

[darkwolf666]

As someone who is deemed clinically vulnerable in their 30’s (received shielding letters from day 1) did I hear right that I will be vaccinated before mid February? Reading the priority list previously I thought I was behind the 60 plus category?


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If you are clinically extremely vulnerable Boris has promised (ok I made the promise bit up) that you will be vaccinated by mid-February!

 

[Birdie Boy]

Sam Allardyce made a good point that there’s numerous older people involved in elite football who are at risk. Is it fair they are exposed? I’m starting to think it should be called off until the virus is under control.

Then they should work from home and /or isolate.

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

 

[Notters]

Just taking it away from football for a minute, can someone explain why all schools, colleges are closed but nurseries stay open?

Not sure if this is a serious question? I will be able to do a little work whilst my 5 year old watches telly. But none while my 1 year old climbed on my head...

 

[dazzer6666]

It’s still too late for some of the NHS.
% of positive cases ending up in hospital is now at c12% plus
So with 55,000 cases per day that’s 6,600 hospital admissions PER DAY in about two weeks time.
Hospital admisssion numbers have mysteriously disappeared from the Govt stats since 23 Dec - that were at 2,500 then.
Hospitals will fall over - Johnson and the rest have blood on their hands

Despite all of the nobody could have done it better merchants on here

To late, always too late

Agree it’s now bloody scary but where do you get 12% from ?

Data on admissions (and testing, ICU etc) is available here with each stat noted on when it was compiled up to - there has always been differences between various sources :

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare

The BBC website has a regional breakdown on data, including latest hospital admissions :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

 

[Martlet]

Sam Allardyce made a good point that there’s numerous older people involved in elite football who are at risk. Is it fair they are exposed? I’m starting to think it should be called off until the virus is under control.

Mind you, he didn’t have to take the job!

 

[Weststander]

Many are to blame but in all honesty the same pattern of infections is occurring in nearly all western countries. I think the government have made bad decisions but I think no matter what was done unless we’d locked down for the entirety of winter, the virus would have spiked massively between January and March.

Understand the lockdown, as numbers are increasing to an uncomfortable level, but at the same time I won’t comply with another year of this if that were to happen, I think there would be a revolution across Europe.

Agreed.

Second and third waves were predicted every step of the way, to coincide with the normal busy flu season. This spike was probably inevitable, virtually all of Europe is suffering. Including this time Germany, where this time their much praised track n trace has been overwhelmed.

Disobedience has increased eg 2,000 attended an illegal rave near Rennes at the weekend.

 

[severnside gull]

How is elite sport continuing madness, out of interest?

I don’t see an argument for stopping sport at elite level myself, it’s a controlled environment with football club bubbles and precautions there is no reason to stop sports.

The issue I think is that it adds to the litany of mixed messages and gives encouragement to the Covid-deniers.
This weekend’s abuse of common sense self regulation by a number of EPL stars might be seen to be being accepted and - similarly to Cummings - some will take the view that they can abuse them too.

 

[Mike Small]

Sam Allardyce made a good point that there’s numerous older people involved in elite football who are at risk. Is it fair they are exposed? I’m starting to think it should be called off until the virus is under control.

Please. If Sam Allardyce was so concerned about the virus, he wouldn’t have taken the job. He’s a millionaire who doesn’t need a job either. That comment was to buy him more time to turn WBA into the grinding machine he needs to help them avoid relegation.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

If it’s so controlled and “bubbled” why are games getting called off?

You have Just proved it’s controlled with the procedures In place.

 

[Weststander]

Sam Allardyce made a good point that there’s numerous older people involved in elite football who are at risk. Is it fair they are exposed? I’m starting to think it should be called off until the virus is under control.

Would that extend to the Bundesliga in light of Germany’s high daily death toll from Coronavirus?

 

[Stat Brother]

At the risk of sounding like my father, if Boris told you to jump off a cliff....?

This is the Premier Minister you're trivialising down to the level of one of 2 primary school boys being told off by a buxom teacher wearing glasses with her hair tied up, and a pencil sticking out of the bun.

 

[darkwolf666]

Not sure if this is a serious question? I will be able to do a little work whilst my 5 year old watches telly. But none while my 1 year old climbed on my head...

It was a perfectly serious question. Shutting schools is about reducing infection rates, not so people can work from home. Nursery age children (and staff) are no different.

 

[Randy McNob]

Perfectly happy with all of this. Lockdown much needed. Vaccine signalling the beginning of the end. A couple of months of home working, running and time with the kids while we get it sorted.

As much as I am not a Boris fan in general, no one could have predicted the precise mutation in the virus until it happened and now it has the right action has been taken.

No one was forced to socialise at Christmas.

With respect, the government have been very anti lockdown, the schools minister was threatening to take legal action and the unions were threatening to strike, they went against the expert advice, and this is only a few weeks after the PM mocked the opposition in parliament for wanting to lockdown, only to make it government policy a few days later.

Yes, this is unprecedented but their disastrous handling of this has only exacerbated the situation

 

[A1X]

Still it was nice all those kids got to go into school for a day, I’m sure the virus took the day off

 

[Kinky Gerbil]