[News] Bill Archer (not dead)

[hart's shirt]

 

[Diallo]

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You have a point but I'm not sure you quite read the room. I never think about him either. It isn't about letting go. It is simply amusing to see him suffering, and perfectly reasonable to post a thread on it. I never think about Gary Glitter or Boris Johnson, but I will certainly do a little shimmy when they get their come-uppance. You'd need to have a heart of stone to not laugh at that

This is the only time I wished I believed in religion.

Religion teaches not to hate though? Our country has laws based on Christianity which preaches not to hate. Isn’t not to hate actually one of the 10 commandments?. It’s bizarre how many people associate themselves as religious but excuse their faith when it comes to enjoying football.

PS I’m not religious by the way. Omnism is what I would say I respect.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

For cancer alone or all services?

You can’t separate cancer from other services, certainly not surgically as there are so many co-dependent specialisms that are required during procedures.

You could have LINACS (raditherapy), but you need bunkers, and more importantly staff to run them. It simply isn’t cost effective to pull staff out of main hospitals to run isolated services.

 

[Diallo]

I strongly suspect you’ll be in a minority here.

So do I.

Hate and fear seems the most unifying mental state society is on these days.

 

[WATFORD zero]

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Religion teaches not to hate though? Our country has laws based on Christianity which preaches not to hate. Isn’t not to hate actually one of the 10 commandments?. It’s bizarre how many people associate themselves as religious but excuse their faith when it comes to enjoying football.

PS I’m not religious by the way. Omnism is what I would say I respect.

I think the majority of British laws are based on the same rules as the majority of the main religions

I'm not religious either, but I quite like Karma. And if I can help Archer experience the effects of Karma, all the better

 

[Is it PotG?]

From the deepest desires often come the deadliest hate - Socrates

 

[Driver8]

Quite looking forward to this thread title being amended. Can't be too long.

I didn’t want to get people’s hopes up!

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

I’m glad for you, that you can forgive.
Archer and his accomplices were never interested in moving the club, they wanted to kill it, I don’t believe for a second that they had any intention whatsoever, in the club getting a new stadium funded by the sale of the Goldstone site. The money from the sale was only ever going into the pockets of those 3 crooks. Thankfully, their ultimate aim was thwarted.

Their greed was obscene then, and Archers tax dodging is obscene now.
A truly hateful human being.

Oh, I know they had no interest in a new ground. The point I was making was that a move was discussed way before they came on the scene. It would have happened anyway. The club didn’t die. Ultimately it has thrived. Archer etc are now an irrelevance. More important is that my support for the club is not defined by that period. It’s through the football.

 

[BN9 BHA]

Quite amusing seeing a wrong un get caught for tax dodging
Never forgive or forget what he did.

 

[zefarelly]

There is a case for suggesting it was Archers asset stripping that meant we eventually got Falmer.

Not ever going to change my opinion of him, Stanley (Spit) and their monkey. I am not a vindictive person but for them I’ll make an exception, two down, one to go.

I don't buy that. The Goldstone could easily have been redeveloped and/or improved . . . . .IF the club had decided, under good management, it wanted to move it would hae been in a much better position to barter with the council with some prime residential real estate to trade.

All without having to go to Withdean, or worse still wasting half a Saturday driving to and fro f***ing Gillingham!

 

[zefarelly]

In hindsight archer actually did us a favour, no archer , goldstone isn’t sold, no homeless Albion , no campaign for a new ground, no planning permission, no Amex, and maybe no Tony bloom (As chairman).

we could have be languishing in the lower leagues with a decrepit stadium.

Archer is still a **** though. He must be ancient now. Not long for this earth.

That's utter tripe. IMHO. He didn't do us a favour in any way shape or form. He screwed us as badly as anyone could.

 

[lawros left foot]

If it wasn't for him Brighton might still be playing at the Goldstone with a capacity of 17,000

Sometimes things turn out for the best, even if it didn't seem that way at the time.

Come on.

Are you trying to give Archer some credit for the Amex??
Archer didn’t care what happened to our club once he had looted his 40 pieces of silver.

 

[Diallo]

I don't buy that. The Goldstone could easily have been redeveloped and/or improved . . . . .IF the club had decided, under good management, it wanted to move it would hae been in a much better position to barter with the council with some prime residential real estate to trade.

ALl without haveing to go to Withdean, or worse still wasting half a Saturday driving to and fro f***ing Gillingham!

All meant to be in the end. Withdean was our most successful spell in our history trophy wise. The Amex has seen us reach the highest position in our history, and Gillingham is the story we tell to show how far we’ve come. Would we be this big had it not been for all those dark days the club proudly battled through? Our proud history wouldn’t exist had it not been for a Cluster B person disorder running our football club back in the 90’s.

Im glad all of it happened with hindsight. Wouldn’t change a thing about our past now apart from signing Liam Dickinson.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Being realistic, the Goldstone was increasingly outdated, cramped, and becoming a wreck even before Archer and his cronies. The South Stand had burnt down (twice? I forget). The East Stand had a ridiculous slope and restricted shape so couldn't be developed. The West Stand only ran three quarters of the pitch. The Lego Stand was what it was. The North Stand may have lost its roof as well (don't recall now). The toilets were a stinking outdoor hell hole. The whole place was ultimately doomed. Archer's deliberate neglect only accelerated its decline. It was a small ground for a small club.

However its fate shouldn't have been to be asset stripped like it was at that particular time.

 

[Weststander]

You can’t separate cancer from other services, certainly not surgically as there are so many co-dependent specialisms that are required during procedures.

You could have LINACS (raditherapy), but you need bunkers, and more importantly staff to run them. It simply isn’t cost effective to pull staff out of main hospitals to run isolated services.

For the main Sussex hospital to be based at Pease Pottage, would be madness.

I've friends in Crawley who feel well looked after by the Crawley and Redhill hospitals. Why a third hospital in the locality?

The large conurbation of Brighton and Hove should and does have a proper hospital.

 

[Super Steve Earle]

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Religion teaches not to hate though? Our country has laws based on Christianity which preaches not to hate. Isn’t not to hate actually one of the 10 commandments?. It’s bizarre how many people associate themselves as religious but excuse their faith when it comes to enjoying football.

PS I’m not religious by the way. Omnism is what I would say I respect.

It's bizarre how many people associate themselves as religious but show no forgiveness and sometimes no love to friend or family and offer no help for charity unless their church going mates are looking. Sorry, I speak as I find. Good religious people also available.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

For cancer alone or all services?

All

 

[Horses Arse]

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Religion teaches not to hate though? Our country has laws based on Christianity which preaches not to hate. Isn’t not to hate actually one of the 10 commandments?. It’s bizarre how many people associate themselves as religious but excuse their faith when it comes to enjoying football.

PS I’m not religious by the way. Omnism is what I would say I respect.

Tongue in cheek reference to eternal damnation in hell.

And no, religion does not seem to teach its followers not to hate. So much death and destruction in the name of religion.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I really can't believe the number of people on here saying we wouldn't be where we are now without Archer

Of course we wouldn't. Of course the Goldstone was a shithole with limited scope for development, but it was worth millions which could have provided a springboard for us had it not all gone into someone's back pocket.

Dick and Tony wouldn't have had to waste so much f***ing time, money and energy digging us out of the shithole he left us in. They could have been building for the future far earlier, from a far better position with more money. I can only think that there is some sort of stupidity virus around at the moment

 

[Weststander]

That's utter tripe. IMHO. He didn't do us a favour in any way shape or form. He screwed us as badly as anyone could.

The land was worth £23.86m, with £5.7m of debts.

£18m was taken from the community.