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[Politics] Big Thank You to China



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Oct 8, 2003
55,912
Faversham
middletoenail said:
The blame China thread. Fantastic.

Britain have spent the last 20 year's blowing up the Middle East. For what? Being British it is easy to forget how we pillaged China and tried to colonise them all those years ago. What do you think has been going on at Guantanamo Bay and Abu Graibh? Is that a holiday camp? Why do we still claim Gibraltar, Falklands etc, they're nowhere near us?

When was the last time that China invaded a country? Imagine if the Chinese sailed a war ship along the coast of Mexico, which is basically what the UK/US have been doing for the last few years in the South China Sea.

China is fed up of Britain/US taking the pi55 out of them. There are two sides to every story.
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This.

Except I'm not sure they are really fed up with us. I'm not sure they are any more bothered about us than we are about Belgium. :shrug:

(or Wales).
 




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knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,105
middletoenail said:
The blame China thread. Fantastic.

When was the last time that China invaded a country? Imagine if the Chinese sailed a war ship along the coast of Mexico, which is basically what the UK/US have been doing for the last few years in the South China Sea.

China is fed up of Britain/US taking the pi55 out of them. There are two sides to every story.
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1950 Occupation of Tibet springs to mind. Followed by war in North Korea few years on. 1979 incursión into Vietnam supporting the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. 15 years ago they organised Maoist rebels in Nepal.
 


Swansman

Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
middletoenail said:
The blame China thread. Fantastic.

Britain have spent the last 20 year's blowing up the Middle East. For what? Being British it is easy to forget how we pillaged China and tried to colonise them all those years ago. What do you think has been going on at Guantanamo Bay and Abu Graibh? Is that a holiday camp? Why do we still claim Gibraltar, Falklands etc, they're nowhere near us?

When was the last time that China invaded a country? Imagine if the Chinese sailed a war ship along the coast of Mexico, which is basically what the UK/US have been doing for the last few years in the South China Sea.

China is fed up of Britain/US taking the pi55 out of them. There are two sides to every story.
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China is complicated.

It really isnt as simple as "they are ****ing mad and wants to destroy everything and a lot worse than everyone else". That is very simplified.

They have some problems. Too much concentration of power since the balance of the Eight Elders was thrown out the window as they got old and died to death. With the loss of that balance a lot of poor and rushed decisions have been made over the years, some that are now coming back to chase them. And I'm not comfortable with their increasing involvement abroad. What they are doing in China is for the most part understandable but I have no urge to become Chinese.

Overall they are however the most likely to solve a lot of global problems. Currently they are paying for students going abroad to all the best universities to study solutions to environmental problems etc and in a decade or so they will accumulate all that knowledge and likely provide a lot of solutions to those problems. The lack of democracy might seem hideous from western perspectives but when it comes to actually get things down rather than just throwing pies around, they are in a good position.
 


vegster

vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,262
Superphil said:
Tesla have built an enormous battery factory in the US, the biggest battery plant in the world.
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How much were they charged for that ?
 






ShandyH

ShandyH

Well-known member
Jan 22, 2010
998
Back in London
knocky1 said:
1950 Occupation of Tibet springs to mind. Followed by war in North Korea few years on. 1979 incursión into Vietnam supporting the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. 15 years ago they organised Maoist rebels in Nepal.
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Fair summation.

Xi’s behaviour is particularly troubling though. It’s current, it’s malevolent, it’s channeling communist power to him, which is unsocialist and a total abuse of trust in his stewardship.

He’s another misguided leader who thinks his power, ignorance and bigotry should be applied to the widest possible audience.

It would be extremely hard to veto buying Chinese goods; most of Amazon’s business model and profit margins rely on it.

Western countries need to build more renewable energy sources and then start manufacturing things in an efficient manner to stop our reliance on the coal-fuelled economy making this shite at the expense of all of the above and the environment. Unless we do this we are vacuously surrendering to an horrendous regime.


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middletoenail

middletoenail

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Jul 2, 2008
3,580
Hong Kong
ShandyH said:
Fair summation.

Xi’s behaviour is particularly troubling though. It’s current, it’s malevolent, it’s channeling communist power to him, which is unsocialist and a total abuse of trust in his stewardship.

He’s another misguided leader who thinks his power, ignorance and bigotry should be applied to the widest possible audience.

It would be extremely hard to veto buying Chinese goods; most of Amazon’s business model and profit margins rely on it.

Western countries need to build more renewable energy sources and then start manufacturing things in an efficient manner to stop our reliance on the coal-fuelled economy making this shite at the expense of all of the above and the environment. Unless we do this we are vacuously surrendering to an horrendous regime.


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Communism is something different and funnily enough it works. Democracy with Boris Johnson, it's actually laughable.
 
















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Fat Boy Fat

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Aug 21, 2020
1,077
Springal said:
Good luck with that. Let me know how you get on. Don’t forget even if it’s not ‘made in China’ you can guarantee components within something will have been
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I took order of my latest Covid test kits yesterday, and guess what the box says - yep “made in China” - sort of ironic, isn’t it?*








* certainly more ironic then Alanis Morissette anyway.
 












ShandyH

ShandyH

Well-known member
Jan 22, 2010
998
Back in London
middletoenail said:
I live in China and have a Chinese wife lol.

Don't believe everything you read in the The Daily Mail. I'm very happy here.
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Of course you do. And of course you have. And of of course you are. I don’t read the daily mail. I read the Financial Times, The Guardian, The Economist, The Week, Private Eye and the BBC among other things. What do you read? Maoist Life as presented by Xi?


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Swansman

Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
ShandyH said:
At least, in a democracy, we have a vote that matters (unless you’re in Russia or Hong Kong)


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True. I throw my vote in the bin each time and always get trash leaders. Democracy is flawless!
 




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