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[Football] Big Bob Sanchez







nwgull

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Looking at it, I dont think he could have played for England.

The criteria for eligibility to represent a home nation is:

A Player who, under the terms of art. 5, is eligible to represent more than one Association on account of his nationality, may play in an international match for one of these Associations only if, in addition to having the relevant nationality, he fulfils at least one of the following conditions:
a) He was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
b) His biological mother or biological father was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
c) One of his biological grandparents was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
d) He has engaged in a minimum of five years education under the age of 18 within the territory of the relevant association.
— Home nations agreement

That’s the home nations agreement for eligibility of British and Irish born players.
 


Swansman

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That’s the home nations agreement for eligibility of British and Irish born players.

Its the home nations agreement on who can represent your nations in general. Hence that "a) He was born on the territory of the relevant Association" describes being British born as one of the things making a player eligible.. As for Ireland, they are not in the home nations agreement.

The agreement is why Angel Rangel couldnt play for Wales - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/18833190 - and why Sanchez wouldnt be able to play for England. While they could according to FIFA rules, they cant due to home nations agreement.
 








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Its the home nations agreement on who can represent your nations in general. Hence that "a) He was born on the territory of the relevant Association" describes being British born as one of the things making a player eligible.. As for Ireland, they are not in the home nations agreement.

The agreement is why Angel Rangel couldnt play for Wales - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/18833190 - and why Sanchez wouldnt be able to play for England. While they could according to FIFA rules, they cant due to home nations agreement.

Sanchez father comes from the West Indies. A number of the islands are British. He may qualify via that route
 


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Love the bit about Ben Roberts being the second father in England
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Looking at it, I dont think he could have played for England.

The criteria for eligibility to represent a home nation is:

A Player who, under the terms of art. 5, is eligible to represent more than one Association on account of his nationality, may play in an international match for one of these Associations only if, in addition to having the relevant nationality, he fulfils at least one of the following conditions:
a) He was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
b) His biological mother or biological father was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
c) One of his biological grandparents was born on the territory of the relevant Association;
d) He has engaged in a minimum of five years education under the age of 18 within the territory of the relevant association.
— Home nations agreement

I have read he doesn’t have a UK passport. If this is the case then any talk of him playing for England at the moment is utter nonsense as he can’t. He could obviously apply for one, but as someone else has pointed out he’d have to give up his Spanish one as Spain doesn’t recognize dual nationality with “third nations”. Would he be willing to do this? Maybe. Maybe not. It’s irrelevant at the moment though.

He’s there on merit and not because the Spanish FA are pulling a fast one to tie him down to Spain.
 




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That Sheff Utd free kick still the best of the lot in my view

He certainly gets down well for a big fella

The Rochdale one at 1:26 is a belter.

(Though I'd have left out the one against Wolves at 2:50 that they cut just as he's pushing it straight onto Burn's knee for an own goal!)
 


Swansman

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I have read he doesn’t have a UK passport. If this is the case then any talk of him playing for England at the moment is utter nonsense as he can’t. He could obviously apply for one, but as someone else has pointed out he’d have to give up his Spanish one as Spain doesn’t recognize dual nationality with “third nations”. Would he be willing to do this? Maybe. Maybe not. It’s irrelevant at the moment though.

He’s there on merit and not because the Spanish FA are pulling a fast one to tie him down to Spain.

Thing is, even if he did apply for a UK passport and got UK citizenship he wouldnt be eligeble according to the agreement unless he got some British blood (which is possible but no one seems to know). Its the same situation as it was for Almunia:

https://www.goal.com/en/news/8/main...o-almunia-arteta-cannot-play-for-home-nations

It would have been possible if Rob moved to England aged 13 or earlier though, but he was 15.
 


blue-shifted

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Thing is, even if he did apply for a UK passport and got UK citizenship he wouldnt be eligeble according to the agreement unless he got some British blood (which is possible but no one seems to know). Its the same situation as it was for Almunia:

https://www.goal.com/en/news/8/main...o-almunia-arteta-cannot-play-for-home-nations

It would have been possible if Rob moved to England aged 13 or earlier though, but he was 15.

Well The Sun article above states clearly that he is eligible for England and that Southgate was looking at him.

The Sun is a highly respected publication in the UK with a reputation for unfailing editorial accuracy
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Thing is, even if he did apply for a UK passport and got UK citizenship he wouldnt be eligeble according to the agreement unless he got some British blood (which is possible but no one seems to know). Its the same situation as it was for Almunia:

https://www.goal.com/en/news/8/main...o-almunia-arteta-cannot-play-for-home-nations

It would have been possible if Rob moved to England aged 13 or earlier though, but he was 15.

Good points.

I must admit I like the idea of watching him play for Spain and seeing Brighton named as his club.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Well The Sun article above states clearly that he is eligible for England and that Southgate was looking at him.

The Sun is a highly respected publication in the UK with a reputation for unfailing editorial accuracy

Maybe a reporter can ask if he has a UK passport at the next media session; this simple question will clear everything up.
 


blue-shifted

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Maybe a reporter can ask if he has a UK passport at the next media session; this simple question will clear everything up.

Well, he's been selected for Spain, so barring a massive U turn, it's academic
 








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Why would getting a chance with Spain and doing well increase his value more than doing well in the PL?

Errr an international call up to a tier 1 international team. In short lazy journalism, he will become ‘noticed’ by our media.

Lamptey only got the headlines because he was ex-Chelsea and there was an undertone of Chelsea had messed up letting him go on the cheap. If he’d come through our youth then it would have been a lot less.
 


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