Australians taking defeat well as always

[Billy the Fish]

Pietersen and Kieswetter - Good english names, as english as fish and chips. Don't know what the convicts are complaining about.

 

[Scoffers]

So do we know how these players qualify for England? Isn't Pieterson's mum English? how about the others?

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Have to say I'd prefer English players in the England team,though of course there is a longish history of this not being the case.

Exactly, how many of the people on this thread who are loving the Aussies' reaction have honestly ever taken Kevin Pietersen in an England shirt seriously even though his mum(?) is British?

 

[Scampi]

Odd isn't it how all these South Africans have at least one British parent and that what beat the Aussies was essentially the bowling.

Still, ill informed casual racism is their national sport, so not really a surprise the poor darlings can't cope.

 

[User removed 4]

Still, ill informed casual racism is their national sport, so not really a surprise the poor darlings can't cope.

oh bore off for f*** sake

 

[Scampi]

oh bore off for f*** sake

it's like tourettes with you isn't it.

 

[User removed 4]

Exactly, how many of the people on this thread who are loving the Aussies' reaction have honestly ever taken Kevin Pietersen in an England shirt seriously even though his mum(?) is British?

i take him as seriously as george gregan and lote tequiri in a rugby shirt, as seriously as andrew symonds in cricket colours, and that other true aussie kostya tszuyu

 

[keaton]

When the Aussie have a couple of Aborginals in their team they can start lecturing us about playing a team of foreigners

 

[User removed 4]

it's like tourettes with you isn't it.

no , its a discussion on aussies and sport ,and a worthy tosser like you has to get on his high horse and start moralising about casual racism, shut up you f***ing bore.

 

[User removed 4]

When the Aussie have a couple of Aborginals in their team they can start lecturing us about playing a team of foreigners

So what are you saying because there are no ' indigenous ' australians in the team , just people of ' immigrant ' stock that it's somehow not valid ? isnt that racist in itself ?

 

[Fergus96]

These bloody Kiwi's always moaning!

 

[Stumpy Tim]

Still, ill informed casual racism is their national sport, so not really a surprise the poor darlings can't cope.

Funny my (Asian) wife said only two days ago she had never experience racism in Australia - she's lived here for 14 years.

And by the way, read the BBC News website & you'll see Agnew & Boycott saying the non-English influence in English cricket is wrong... it's not just the Ozzies saying it.

But let's face it, Edna seems to hate Australians for some reason. She's always the first to jump on that little bandwagon. I wonder if Tank has some Australian in him?

 

[The Wizard]

ffs, how many times!!!! they all have one english parent, what makes them more Saffer than English?

Apart from the fact they have a ruddy accent.

 

[Common as Mook]

Funny my (Asian) wife said only two days ago she had never experience racism in Australia - she's lived here for 14 years.

And by the way, read the BBC News website & you'll see Agnew & Boycott saying the non-English influence in English cricket is wrong... it's not just the Ozzies saying it.

But let's face it, Edna seems to hate Australians for some reason. She's always the first to jump on that little bandwagon. I wonder if Tank has some Australian in him?

It's pretty easy to jump on the anti Aussie bandwagon when you read some of the graceless bollocks in their press.

 

[Simster]

I was under the impression the Aussies had taken defeat quite well. If I'm honest, I can't really say that they ever whinge much when they lose really - well certainly no more or less than us anyway.

When we win, we seem to bathe in the glory of it for too long, and our press spends its time looking for signs of how the other guy has taken defeat, whereas the Aussies tend to lick their wounds, offer bregrudging congratulations, then work out how they're going to win for the next FIFTEEN years or so.

It's pretty easy to jump on the anti Aussie bandwagon when you read some of the graceless bollocks in their press.

It really is no worse than what you find in ours IMO.

 

[Adopted Brightonian]

I'm tempted to buy a South Africa cricket top before going to Australia this summer.

 

[Badger]

I was under the impression the Aussies had taken defeat quite well. If I'm honest, I can't really say that they ever whinge much when they lose really - well certainly no more or less than us anyway.

When we win, we seem to bathe in the glory of it for too long, and our press spends its time looking for signs of how the other guy has taken defeat, whereas the Aussies tend to lick their wounds, offer bregrudging congratulations, then work out how they're going to win for the next FIFTEEN years or so.


It really is no worse than what you find in ours IMO.

Actually I think the Aussies tend to just pretend it never happened and report about it as little as possible in the press.



I'm not even sure the Aussies take 20/20 that seriously anyway, my girlfriend (an Aussie) was saying last week that she hopes they don't win because they still haven't got the right sort of team for 20/20. I don't think she was trying to make excuses before the defeat either because that's not in her nature.

She only stopped speaking to me for one night too which is quite an improvement on the Ashes defeat!

 

[Common as Mook]

I was under the impression the Aussies had taken defeat quite well. If I'm honest, I can't really say that they ever whinge much when they lose really - well certainly no more or less than us anyway.

When we win, we seem to bathe in the glory of it for too long, and our press spends its time looking for signs of how the other guy has taken defeat, whereas the Aussies tend to lick their wounds, offer bregrudging congratulations, then work out how they're going to win for the next FIFTEEN years or so.


It really is no worse than what you find in ours IMO.

I'm pretty sure that after we lost the Ashes in 2007 the press was a 100% wankfest in favour of Warne, McGrath, Langer et al. Even the front of today's Telegraph sports section is a congratulations from Warne followed by a caveat that it means nowt in relation to the Ashes unless MBE's are handed out.

Gracelessness is a national past-time in Australia.

 

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I'm pretty sure that after we list the Ashes in 2007 the press was a 100% wankfest in favour of Warne, McGrath, Langer et al. Even the front of today's Telegraph sports section is a congratulations from Warne followed by a caveat that it means nowt in relation to the Ashes unless MBE's are handed out.

Gracelessness is a national past-time in Australia.

 

[cunning fergus]

Utter Bullshit.

The vast majority of ANZACS were born and bred Aussies and Kiwis.

In the words of Dr Geoffrey Partington from Digger History.

Before 1914, all major political parties in Australia supported military training for young men. Labor leaders such as Billy Hughes, born in London, and John Christian Watson, of Scottish descent but born on board ship in Valparaiso Harbour, Chile, were ardent supporters of the Australian National Defence League. In his recent Soldier Boy: The True Story of Jim Martin the Youngest Anzac, Anthony Hill explains how young Jim was imbued at school with pride in being part of the British Empire and was keen to join the military training scheme for boys of twelve and above. Jim enlisted at 14, giving a false age, and had not reached his fifteenth birthday when he died of typhoid fever in a hospital ship off Gallipoli in October, 1915.

When war broke out, the Labor leader, Scotland-born Andrew Fisher, supporting the England-born Liberal Prime Minister, Joseph Cook, declared that Australia would stand beside the mother country to help and defend her "to the last man and the last shilling". About 40 per cent of all Australian males aged between 18 and 45 voluntarily enlisted to serve in the Australian Imperial Forces (AIF), that is about 417 000 men, of whom about 60 000 died in all campaigns and another 160 000 were wounded or maimed. At least a quarter of the Australian volunteers were born in Great Britain and Ireland, Robert Rhodes James's estimate being 35 per cent. About 98 per cent of the rest were of British or Irish origin. The immigration rate from the United Kingdom was exceptionally high between 1910 and 1914. 'Simpson' - 'the man with the donkey' was John Simpson Kirkpatrick, a recent Geordie emigrant.

'Rule Britannia', 'Soldiers of the Queen' and 'Sons of the Sea' were sung at recruiting offices in Adelaide and Sydney, Wellington and Christchurch, as loudly as in Birmingham or Glasgow. In 1914 and 1915 there was little difference between the volunteer rate in Australia of Protestants and Roman Catholics of Irish descent, but the number of Irish volunteers fell sharply after the 1916 Easter Rising in Dublin and after Cardinal Mannix, Archbishop of Melbourne, took a leading part in opposing conscription in the referenda of 1916 and 1917.

In 1915 almost all Anzac troops considered themselves part of a wider British people and wanted to be regarded as British, not only as Australians or New Zealanders.

So at least 25% were born outside of the UK, evidently the vast majority of the others (like their elected leaders) closely associated themselves with a British identity. As is the case now in contemporary times 2nd, 3rd and 4th generations of immigrants will still associate themselves with their motherland. What's your problem?