Asians in racist shocker!!

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

fair do's. And thanks for the offer.

Nothing personal I hope and I'll stop here.

Take care and go safely, mate

You too...

By the way love the Amazon advert. Get the Halem not the Dawood ýf you want to buy.

 

[Rusco]

Icehockey, I'm very surprised you like that - isn't it a game for hooligans?

Indeed it is most violent. I went to a boxing evening once and icehockey broke out

 

[Buzzer]

You too...

By the way love the Amazon advert. Get the Halem not the Dawood ýf you want to buy.

we really are in trouble. The advert at the top of my page is 'The Gospel according to Chris Moyles'.

How apt.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

If your point is that some Muslims are anti-Jewish then the answer is yes some of them are. However as far as I can remember it was not Asian Muslims that murdered 6 million Jews but Christian Europeans. It was also during my lifetime that the Roman Catholic church finally got round to dropping it's reference to "perfidious Jews" in it's Easter address.

Leviticus if you don't know is that part of the Bible that condemns homosexuals. It also says the faithfull should not eat shellfish and should be snipped but those little items don't seem to have been adopted by the Christian Right.

Killing Jews on an industrial scale as the Nazi's did is probably beyond the technical abilities of most Muslim states.

I dread to think what would happen to the Jews if they were under the control of a hard line Muslim regime with the same level of organisational abilities and resources as the Germans in the 1930's & 40's

 

[London Irish]

I dread to think what would happen to the Jews if they were under the control of a hard line Muslim regime with the same level of organisational abilities and resources as the Germans in the 1930's & 40's

Hold on, you've just been given an example of Iran. Where's the holocaust there then? I think there's even a Jewish member of parliament there, did the Reichstag have one of them in 1944 then?

 

[Le Premier Cru]

Where did you read this ? The Star ? Ok, that explains a lot.

I wasn't sure if the spelling and grammar were down to the Daily Star journo or to BB, presumably transcribing. Either way the 'article' appears to have been penned by an illiterate. Explains a lot? Indeed.

 

[algie]

Surah 2 verses 190-194



2.190. Fight against those who fight against you in the way of Allah, but do not transgress, for Allah does not love transgressors.

2.191. Kill them whenever you confront them and drive them out from where they drove you out. (For though killing is sinful) wrongful persecution is even worse than killing. Do not fight against them near the Holy Mosque unless they fight against you; but if they fight against you kill them, for that is the reward of such unbelievers.

2.192. Then if they desist, know well that Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Most Compassionate.

2.193. Keep on fighting against them until mischief ends and the way prescribed by Allah prevails. But if they desist, then know that hostility is only against the wrong-doers.

2.194. The sacred month for the sacred month; sanctities should be respected alike ( by all concerned). Thus, if someone has attacked you, attack him just as he attacked you, and fear Allah and remain conscious that Allah is with those who guard against violating the bounds set by Him.




http://www.islam101.com/terror/quranWPJ.htm


So was 7/7 and 9/11 self defence?

I can't question this translation... its spot on.... however you are out of context. Elswhere in the Qu'ran (and you can find it if you wish to) it overwhelmingly states that you can fight only in self-defence... so the suras you refer to can only come into effect IF IT IS IN SELF-DEFENCE.

Good researching Algie

So was 7/7 and 9/11 self defence?But surley this is what these Islamic clerics do on our streets.Use quotes like these to stir up hatred.This is my whole point

 

[Barrel of Fun]

So was 7/7 and 9/11 self defence?

I think the point is that the perpetrators who carried out 7/7 and 9/11, in the name of Allah and as the Qu'oran told them to, are entirely misguided and so far past their proposed beliefs!!

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

Hold on, you've just been given an example of Iran. Where's the holocaust there then? I think there's even a Jewish member of parliament there, did the Reichstag have one of them in 1944 then?

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/iranjews.html

Read it and weep LI.

You are right, there is a Jewish representative in the iranian government, but he has to support the anti Israeli position of the goverment.

Jews are tolerated as long as they renounce Zionism, they are treated very much as second class citizens and have virtually no rights.

If they want to leave they Iran they have to go through a special "Bureau" and their families are threatened with violence unless they promise to return.

Any Jew making any protest about the treatment of Jews there is likely to be executed.

Absolutely no correlation with the Nazi's there then.

10,000 Jews out of a population of nearly 70 million! wonder why that is.

Think on LI, none of your self serving drivel here, just make sure you check your facts before you start chucking your weight around.

here endeth.

 

[London Irish]

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/iranjews.html

Read it and weep LI.

You are right, there is a Jewish representative in the iranian government, but he has to support the anti Israeli position of the goverment.

Jews are tolerated as long as they renounce Zionism, they are treated very much as second class citizens and have virtually no rights.

If they want to leave they Iran they have to go through a special "Bureau" and their families are threatened with violence unless they promise to return.

Any Jew making any protest about the treatment of Jews there is likely to be executed.

Absolutely no correlation with the Nazi's there then.

10,000 Jews out of a population of nearly 70 million! wonder why that is.

Think on LI, none of your self serving drivel here, just make sure you check your facts before you start chucking your weight around.

here endeth.

I'm not defending the discrimanatory practises of the Iranian regime, socialists like me would also find themselves in trouble with the theocracy.

I'm just saying your parallel with the Nazis is overblown and ridiculous. I challenged you to provide evidence of a Holocaust in Iran. There is none, is there?

 

[Guinness Boy]

I'm not defending the discrimanatory practises of the Iranian regime, socialists like me would also find themselves in trouble with the theocracy.

I'm just saying your parallel with the Nazis is overblown and ridiculous. I challenged you to provide evidence of a Holocaust in Iran. There is none, is there?

Hold on - what BH said was he hated to see what would happen if the Jews were under the control of a hardline Muslim govt. He then came back to you to say there were less that 10000 Jews in Iran and all of them had to renounce their faith. Hardly under the control of is it?

 

[London Irish]

Hold on - what BH said was he hated to see what would happen if the Jews were under the control of a hardline Muslim govt. He then came back to you to say there were less that 10000 Jews in Iran and all of them had to renounce their faith. Hardly under the control of is it?

Jews in Iran do not have to renounce their faith, do they?

 

[Guinness Boy]

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/iranjews.html


Jews are tolerated as long as they renounce Zionism

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Hold on - what BH said was he hated to see what would happen if the Jews were under the control of a hardline Muslim govt. He then came back to you to say there were less that 10000 Jews in Iran and all of them had to renounce their faith. Hardly under the control of is it?

Some points

Jews don't have to renounce their faith

Jewish virtual library is a very right wing israeli-american website which does not offer an unbiased assessment of Iran (for perhaps understandable reasons)

The Jewish population is around 30-40,000 the largest in the middle east outside Israel.

 

[chip]

I'm not defending the discrimanatory practises of the Iranian regime, socialists like me would also find themselves in trouble with the theocracy.

Iran has some redeeming qualities then. Sorry, couldn't resist