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Ashley Barnes isn't nearly good enough for us.



darkwolf666

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oh, thats interesting. Yeah, he didn't score many for them in the champ, its the last couple of years he's really come on. Maybe they played him on the wing too, I dunno?

To be fair to Barnes, anyone who gets a good goal return playing for a team playing the style Burnley does deserves some plaudits. He has matured, similar to Murray, but clearly not as clinical or as natural a goal sniffer as the great man!

Unfortunately I will always remember him as Banjo Barnes (maybe harshly)...
 




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To be fair to Barnes, anyone who gets a good goal return playing for a team playing the style Burnley does deserves some plaudits. He has matured, similar to Murray, but clearly not as clinical or as natural a goal sniffer as the great man!

Unfortunately I will always remember him as Banjo Barnes (maybe harshly)...

Maybe? ??? :lolol:

Watching Bumley is like going back to Withdean, but with added Dyche :lolol:
 


Weststander

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oh, thats interesting. Yeah, he didn't score many for them in the champ, its the last couple of years he's really come on. Maybe they played him on the wing too, I dunno?

Didn’t Barnes play second fiddle to Vokes, Andre Gray and latterly Wood in Burnley’s earlier PL seasons, either often as a sub, or in a deeper role putting in the hard graft for them? He was described as having to play a utility role.
 


darkwolf666

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Didn’t Barnes play second fiddle to Vokes, Andre Gray and latterly Wood in Burnley’s earlier PL seasons, either often as a sub, or in a deeper role putting in the hard graft for them? He was described as having to play a utility role.

Barnes career average, for all clubs, even those “playing him out of position” (which clearly most of his managers appear to do!!!) is 1 goal every 4 games.

Murray comes in at a goal ever 2.7 games.

Zamora comes in at a goal every 3 games.
 


Weststander

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Barnes career average, for all clubs, even those “playing him out of position” (which clearly most of his managers appear to do!!!) is 1 goal every 4 games.

Murray comes in at a goal ever 2.7 games.

Zamora comes in at a goal every 3 games.

I’ve always been a huge fan of Muzza, even when I sat by one or two of his detractors in the Withdean south stand. In the end they came round, agreeing that the player is class. A quality forward, finisher and natural footballer. He propelled two clubs to the PL.

From the same era, I have a soft spot for Barnes, the young striker was quality for us from the moment he played. Pleased that he’s done so well in the game.
 




dsr-burnley

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oh, thats interesting. Yeah, he didn't score many for them in the champ, its the last couple of years he's really come on. Maybe they played him on the wing too, I dunno?

Burnley have only had 1 and a half seasons in the Championship with Barnes in the team. In the first half-season, immediately after we signed him, he was mostly sub behind Ings and Vokes. Two years later, he missed the whole season with a knee ligament injury.

Murray has the advantage of regular penalties. He's scored 10, to Zamora's 2 and Barnes' 4 in the Premier League. (In all competitions, Murray 30, Barnes 15, Zamora 6.)
 


darkwolf666

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Burnley have only had 1 and a half seasons in the Championship with Barnes in the team. In the first half-season, immediately after we signed him, he was mostly sub behind Ings and Vokes. Two years later, he missed the whole season with a knee ligament injury.

Murray has the advantage of regular penalties. He's scored 10, to Zamora's 2 and Barnes' 4 in the Premier League. (In all competitions, Murray 30, Barnes 15, Zamora 6.)

How many penalties missed by each?
 


Two Professors

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Excellent.Well done Ash.
 




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Premier League Top Scorers - 2019-2020 season

11 - Vardy (98 mins/goal)

10 - Abraham (90 mins/goal)

9 - Aguero (74 mins/goal)

8 - Aubameyang (135 mins/goal)

7 - Sterling (126 mins/goal)

6 - Mane (146 mins/goal), Kane (164 mins/goal), Pukki (178 mins/goal)

5 - Pulisic (113 mins/goal), Ings (151 mins/goal), Wood (169 mins/goal), Salah (171 mins/goal), Barnes (177 mins/goal)
Rashford (190 mins/goal), C.Wilson (208 mins/goal)

4 - B.Silva (160 mins/goal), H.Wilson (180 mins/goal), Maupay (196 mins/goal), Ayew (221 mins/goal) Wesley (233 mins/goal),
Jimenez (236 mins/goal), Maddison (241 mins/goal), Haller (248 mins/goal), Mount (260 mins/goal),
 


LowKarate

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Watching Bumley is like going back to Withdean, but with added Dyche :lolol:

'Added Dyche'? You make him sound like a condiment.

I had always thought of Dyche as a verb, similar to mashed, pummeled, pulverised, etc... Example being:

To Dyche a steak, start by wrapping it in plastic wrap so the juices don't spill out as you're Dycheing it.
For best results, pound the surface of the steak using a mallet, a rolling pin, or even a wine bottle.
When you're finished Dycheing the first side of the steak, flip it over and repeat on the other side.
 


Triggaaar

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'Added Dyche'? You make him sound like a condiment.

I had always thought of Dyche as a verb
Agreed.
similar to mashed, pummeled, pulverised, etc... Example being:

To Dyche a steak, start by wrapping it in plastic wrap so the juices don't spill out as you're Dycheing it.
I think of it like when you've got a dodgy stomach, and need to take a dyche.
 




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'Added Dyche'? You make him sound like a condiment.

I had always thought of Dyche as a verb, similar to mashed, pummeled, pulverised, etc... Example being:

To Dyche a steak, start by wrapping it in plastic wrap so the juices don't spill out as you're Dycheing it.
For best results, pound the surface of the steak using a mallet, a rolling pin, or even a wine bottle.
When you're finished Dycheing the first side of the steak, flip it over and repeat on the other side.

Mmmm...I think of him more as a loud red-rinded hard cheese.
 








schmunk

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Murray missed 4 in the Premier League, Barnes and Zamora none. Being Burnley's regular penalty taker isn't a good way of adding to your goal tally - we've only had 2 penalties in the last 2+ seasons.

Running it into the box isn't the Burnley way.

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zefarelly

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The fact this thread keeps getting bounced just endorses what a complete **** up the club made with Barnes.

Whilst I agree. . . . It's also about playing style, and formation, tic-tacs etc . . Hopefully we get to a point GP gets his own players. PL quality ones too!
 


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