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BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
HampshireSeagulls said:


I reckon we are going to pull in a couple of signings in this window, we will get a striker and a defender, but they will probably be journeymen, which is no problem. All they have to do is keep us up - convert some draws to victories, and we will have no problems.:clap2:

I hope so, I see Les Ferdinand on Match of the Day he is still keeping fit with Watford but not playing would he do as a short term measure up front.
 




larus

Well-known member
Perhaps McGhee is playing a cunning game of setting a low expectation of wages/fees for anyone that we nogatiate over.

I'm not one of these fans who says 'We deserve to be told what's going on'. I expect the management of the club to be as shrewd as possible; if that involves 'white lies' gasp, shock, horror, then so be it.

If nothing has happened by the end of the transfer window, then we have grounds to vent our frustration.
 


Charles 'Charley' Charles

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Oct 8, 2005
3,622
The Mile Of Oaks
If and it is an "IF" we go down I think we would have a very good season next year, we have some very good young players who may not be settingthe world alight now, next season against lower oppostion and being older and more experienced, would do very well. Players like henderson, lynch, ckr, jakey, hinsh, elphicks, hammond, gatting, carole etc, would more then hold their own. So we may come straight back up, in which case attendances wouldn't really change between struggling in this division and challenging in league 1. Or we may flirt with play offs till youngsters have had 1 more year of experience then get, get promoted the following year. Whatever happens don't think crowds will suffer too much as we WILL begin 2008 season in the championship at Falmer. And no I'm not resigned to going down, but if we do get relegated would rather this season than next (awaits first flaming)
 


Theatre of Trees

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
7,851
TQ2905
Not resigned at all. I'm with Larus on this one, why should the management make public their targets it may possibly alert other clubs to a situation they previously did not know about. Secondly, it isn't worth saying we have money because selling clubs will only put their price up knowing you have it.
 


ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
7,313
Just far enough away from LDC
BensGrandad said:
Are we resigned to being relegated?

Does the board and MM either believe or indeed wants us to stay up.

The recent transfer activity of other clubs i.e Sheff Wed shows a distinct desire rather than ours of 'am I bovvered'.

sorry couldn't let this pass.

Time to come clean - in a previous incarnation on here, you and I had a major fallout as you accused the board of not wanting us to get promoted under Peter taylor. When zamora was injured and we bought in Wayne Gray, you said it was because the board didn't want to spend the money on us going up - of course the reality was because Zamora wasn't as badly injured as first feared.

We did go up - as champions - and guess what, despite going down a year later - we went back up again.

I wonder how many times you'll spew out this rubbish and digs that the board dont care and are selling the fans short.

It's time for you to put up now - why do you keep digging at the board? what is your agenda?

I know you are some one who knows his stuff about football, but you have a blind spot about this club and it can only be through an interesting past concerning albion boards. So let us all know the secret!
 




BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
The major concern is that the fans are believing that if we get relegated we have an automatic right to get promotion the next year, which of course we dont.

I have no hidden agenda against the board but am rather sceptical about the finances of the club.

Back in the days of using Priesfield I was told by a league club chairman that we would go back to Brighton somewhere because no other club would allow us to ground share as the board didnt have the money to finance such a loan. The only option left was to go back to Brighton and beg off of the council.

Through the turmoils of the Falmer application I have seen nothing that would entice me to change that view.

A few years ago I was talking to an Ex Manager of ours at another club and I happened to say see you next season and his answer was why you will not get promoted as the board cannot afford it. This again has stuck in my throat, did he know something that he wasnt saying.

We now move onto the transfer window and I would suggest that ANY manager would have drawn up a list of his priorities of the type of player that he wants and would even have had a few lined up so that when the window opened could have moved quickly like Sheff Wed did. A win yesterday. or even a draw would have given us more money to reinvest in the team.

The feeling coming from the club is one of not caring less whether we stay up or not. Through no fault of the club or the board everything and every small amount of money has had to go into Falmer to preserve the future but there comes a time when the supporters can expect some return now, a fair number of the older supporters will never ever see us at Falmer due to age etc. so lets give them something now - a few wins and the chance to cheer and support the club that they have done for many years.
 


ROSM

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Dec 26, 2005
7,313
Just far enough away from LDC
BensGrandad said:
The major concern is that the fans are believing that if we get relegated we have an automatic right to get promotion the next year, which of course we dont.

I have no hidden agenda against the board but am rather sceptical about the finances of the club.

Back in the days of using Priesfield I was told by a league club chairman that we would go back to Brighton somewhere because no other club would allow us to ground share as the board didnt have the money to finance such a loan. The only option left was to go back to Brighton and beg off of the council.

Through the turmoils of the Falmer application I have seen nothing that would entice me to change that view.

A few years ago I was talking to an Ex Manager of ours at another club and I happened to say see you next season and his answer was why you will not get promoted as the board cannot afford it. This again has stuck in my throat, did he know something that he wasnt saying.

We now move onto the transfer window and I would suggest that ANY manager would have drawn up a list of his priorities of the type of player that he wants and would even have had a few lined up so that when the window opened could have moved quickly like Sheff Wed did. A win yesterday. or even a draw would have given us more money to reinvest in the team.

The feeling coming from the club is one of not caring less whether we stay up or not. Through no fault of the club or the board everything and every small amount of money has had to go into Falmer to preserve the future but there comes a time when the supporters can expect some return now, a fair number of the older supporters will never ever see us at Falmer due to age etc. so lets give them something now - a few wins and the chance to cheer and support the club that they have done for many years.

I know you have had dealins with Scally at Gillingham and I bet that the ex manager was Adams. I say this because when I spoke to him when peter taylor was manager and we were playing preston in a cup tie, I said that we would see him the following season and he made a comment that we would not go up (he was wrong)

I have to say though that I think you may be over egging / beefing up the quotes to suit an agenda you have.

The fact is you have consistently since 1998 been digging at this board - you have an agenda, I have yetto work out what it is. i suspect that the board have at some point turned down one of you hair brained schemes.

Oh and btw - withdean has cost the club over 2million pounds (as per the accounts), that was more than enough for 8 additional seasons of groundshare. Also, as the council no longer ran withdean (it was ecovert) they certainly had to pay market rate to be there. slightly blows your begging of the council theory out of the water!
 


northstandnorth

THE GOLDSTONE
Oct 13, 2003
2,441
A272 at 85 mph
bens grandad

ffs.you have done nothing but slag dick knight and all the recent managers off.you are nothing but for a keen supporter of stanley and archer,why o why dont you and ben and the rest of your syphlitic family f.uck off to chelsea where greg will fully appreciate you and your anti albion poison.
 




northstandnorth

THE GOLDSTONE
Oct 13, 2003
2,441
A272 at 85 mph
a fair number of the older supporters will never ever see us at Falmer due to age etc. so lets give them something now -


hope you are including yourself in the above

f uck off and die soon
 


Brighton TID

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Jul 24, 2005
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Horsham
Are there 3 teams worse than us?

I say yes, the following teams are no great shakes:

Sheff Wed
Leicester
Crewe
Plymouth
Millwall
 


Les Biehn

GAME OVER
Aug 14, 2005
20,610
555kaz said:
If and it is an "IF" we go down I think we would have a very good season next year, we have some very good young players who may not be settingthe world alight now, next season against lower oppostion and being older and more experienced, would do very well. Players like henderson, lynch, ckr, jakey, hinsh, elphicks, hammond, gatting, carole etc, would more then hold their own. So we may come straight back up, in which case attendances wouldn't really change between struggling in this division and challenging in league 1. Or we may flirt with play offs till youngsters have had 1 more year of experience then get, get promoted the following year. Whatever happens don't think crowds will suffer too much as we WILL begin 2008 season in the championship at Falmer. And no I'm not resigned to going down, but if we do get relegated would rather this season than next (awaits first flaming)

Have to agree with the 555kaz on this one.
 








northstandnorth

THE GOLDSTONE
Oct 13, 2003
2,441
A272 at 85 mph
we are brighon we dont do mid table mediocrity we are either chasing promotion or fighting relegation.what ever happens we will be involved till the last game of the seaon.you want stability be a chelsea fan(just like bens grandad)get the glory and be bored rigid most games.



up or down something is always going on at the albion
 




northstandnorth

THE GOLDSTONE
Oct 13, 2003
2,441
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sams dad said:
Over the top and totally uncalled for.You should apologise for that remark

mans been slagging dick knight ,all the managers and all the teams off for years.he should appologise for being a stanley stoodge and take his family up to london where he will be at home
 




BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
Lets clear this once and for all.

I am not prepared to give the names of the people who I have quoted as it wouldn't be fair to them and would achieve nothing for us.

I was involved with a consortium, not my money because I dont have any, at the time that Archer Stanley and Bellotti were in charge in facta business collegue of mine had got the consortium together.

We attended a breakfast meeting at The Savoy Hotel London there was a very well known boxing promotor present who told us he had tried to buy the club and had offered £6m total to include debts etc and Archer had told him the club was not for sale. Another chap was there who was Chairman of a club in Essex, his son was chairman of another club in Essex their plan was to build on the two clubs land and buy BHA with the proceeds,this was also vetoed They were prepared to just take over the debts.

The men I was talking to wanted to buy BHA and a local amateur club with its own ground, sell the local ground and let them ground share The Goldstone until a ground for BHA was built at Beeding. Both clubs would have then used Beeding and the sale of the small ground would have helped finance the building of Beeding. I would have become very rich for brokering the deal.

When it became apparent that DK was going to buy the club these same people investigated his finances and told me that he was unable to finance a club the size of BHA, a decent amateur club yes but not a league club.

I am no longer in contact with the people who I have quoted so I do not have a hidden agenda, I do however have slight resentment as to what may have been.

I would add finally that I am 100 % behind the moves to get Falmer and like all fans will do all I can to assist the achievement of this. What I will not do, however, is contribute towards keeping BHA afloat as I believe that it is a private company owned by shareholders and that is their duty and it irks me somewhat when they keep making the different appeals for money to keep THEIR business afloat.

I hope that this will finally explain my position and allow us all to move on and discuss the postive things about this great club.
 


Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,557
Living In a Box
BensGrandad said:
discuss the postive things about this great club.

Like can't see where will get another point this season ?
 




sams dad

I hate Palarse
Feb 7, 2004
6,383
The Hill of The Gun
northstandnorth said:
mans been slagging dick knight ,all the managers and all the teams off for years.he should appologise for being a stanley stoodge and take his family up to london where he will be at home
You are at liberty to disagree(as I do) with his criticism of the Board and Manager,but I stand by my remark that your comment was uncalled for ,and unnecessarily vicious.
 


Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
Why should we believe that when you stirred up all the controversy over the 'playoff money' which was a nothing story?
 


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