Are the Slade out camp thick or just don't listen?

[Uncle Spielberg]

There are quite a few " BHAFC football martyrs " on here at the moment. The ones who will not have a single word said against the club, the manager, the players, the league position, the results, no names but you can judge for yourselves.

 

[SittingbourneSeagull]

I agree.

May as well just give up if dont want to move the club forward.

Not saying I don't want the club to move forward, but if you remember when we were in the first division, once it was obvious we were going to struggle the crowds dropped and the team assembled on wages that reflected the crowds we got in our promotion season became too expensive and eventually caused the problems we have still not recovered from.We need to move forward at a sensible pace and we are not going to go from a side that just about escaped relegation last season to a promotion winning one overnight.

What I am saying is that sacking another Manager is not the answer. We are becoming a joke, too many Managers in too short a time. We need to consolidate and if that means a season of mid table football then that is okay. There are too many knee jerk reactions out there, and I guess we won't know who is right until the end of the season.

 

[SittingbourneSeagull]

There are quite a few " BHAFC football martyrs " on here at the moment. The ones who will not have a single word said against the club, the manager, the players, the league position, the results, no names but you can judge for yourselves.

There are also quite a few like you, who don't seem to have a good word to say about the club. Have a look in the mirror.

 

[brighton bluenose]

I think there are a good number of fans whoever who actually enjoy us being shit and being in the lwoer leagues and fighting relegation as it makes them feel like they are more of a fans for supporting such a shit team, a football martyr if you like. They will take tales of Hereford and Gillingham to their graves and will recite how BAD BHAFC were to anyone who will listen.

This type of fan dreads success as it will bring in thousands of " new " fans and butterfly fans. If BHAFC are successful and have gates of 22000, the 2000 or so who would watch them if they played in the Brighton league in Preston Park are no longer martyrs and their importances dwindles.

Sorry but this is a load of self-serving shite served up to defend your argument!

 

[SittingbourneSeagull]

Sorry but this is a load of self-serving shite served up to defend your argument!

You can't say that, he has nearly 25000 posts so he must be right.

 

[Ernest]

There are quite a few " BHAFC football martyrs " on here at the moment. The ones who will not have a single word said against the club, the manager, the players, the league position, the results, no names but you can judge for yourselves.

I was hoping Tony Bloom was going to change the losers culture that has infested the club on and off the pitch in the last few seasons but the jury is still out.
I want to see Albion doing a Wigan or Stoke who we were playing a few years ago in League 1 and have now established themselves as Premiership teams.

 

[Driver8]

Not saying I don't want the club to move forward, but if you remember when we were in the first division, once it was obvious we were going to struggle the crowds dropped and the team assembled on wages that reflected the crowds we got in our promotion season became too expensive and eventually caused the problems we have still not recovered from.We need to move forward at a sensible pace and we are not going to go from a side that just about escaped relegation last season to a promotion winning one overnight.

What I am saying is that sacking another Manager is not the answer. We are becoming a joke, too many Managers in too short a time. We need to consolidate and if that means a season of mid table football then that is okay. There are too many knee jerk reactions out there, and I guess we won't know who is right until the end of the season.

But wasn't last season supposed to be one of "consolidation " and the season before that? How many seasons of "consolidation" do we need before we decide we want to progress? It would be useful to know in advance if its to be a season of consolidation as then I can stay at home.

 

[SittingbourneSeagull]

But wasn't last season supposed to be one of "consolidation " and the season before that? How many seasons of "consolidation" do we need before we decide we want to progress? It would be useful to know in advance if its to be a season of consolidation as then I can stay at home.

Before we move forward I think we need to be away from Withdean with the terrible atmosphere, and losing money week in week out.

And your last sentence sums up alot of the support at this club. If we ain't gonna be winning the league might as well stay at home.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Since when does a manager get two years if the results are shit, naive thread in the extreme. I reckon Slade deserves a decent stint but if we are still committing suicide every game he's got to be gone by Xmas at the latest.

Quite. Salde is a popular manager with the fans, but there's a bigger picture. The club need to be well positioned and on the up for when Falmer opens. Its a marketing issue. There has to be a limit to the board's patience before they are forced to act. John Barnes and Peter Taylor have already gone. Salde's position has to be a bit precarious. Whether he waves to the South Stand or whether he doesn't. He'll always be respected for digging us out of a deep hole last season. But that was then and this is now.

 

[Driver8]

Before we move forward I think we need to be away from Withdean with the terrible atmosphere, and losing money week in week out.

And your last sentence sums up alot of the support at this club. If we ain't gonna be winning the league might as well stay at home.

Its not about winning the league its about ambition. If that aim is to finish mid table on third division then that is not good enough. Bloom has said how vital it is to be in the championship when we get to falmer so something needs to happen and soon. For the season to be over by October is a complete failure as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Oh, and this revolving door of players has to stop, else how on earth are we ever going to build a cohesive side. Wouldn't recognise half our players in the street anymore.

 

[wehatepalace]

Lets look at this from a different angle, Steve Gritt is a legend for saving us from almost certain relegation to the conference, would you want him back here as manager ?
Slade saved us last year but everyone has a sell by date and his is approaching fast.

 

[brighton bluenose]

Its not about winning the league its about ambition. If that aim is to finish mid table on third division then that is not good enough. Bloom has said how vital it is to be in the championship when we get to falmer so something needs to happen and soon. For the season to be over by October is a complete failure as far as I'm concerned.

Bloom needs to get the cheque book out at the next transfer window and spend big - the Coxes, El-Abds and Gary Harts are not going to get us where we want to be FFS!!

If he's investing £90 million in the new stadium the acquisition of 3/4 new players in the circa £1m price bracket should not be too much of a hardship - we will need to be spending that to stay in the higher level (if we get there!)anyway!!

 

[Acker79]

Face it the facts DO NOT LIE....

we said see how we look after 10 games....fair enough. Well we have played 11 now and are bottom 4.

For a team that has spent money like we have we need to be much higher than this. Have we improved? For parts of games maybe....but the end of the games usually suggest that we screwed up somewhere and it cost us dearly.

First five games of the season = 2 pts from 15
Second five games of the season = 7 pts from 15

Yes, we are improving.

What concerns me is that people think if we do manage the dizzy heights of mid table this season that someone the rest of the league will roll over next season and let us get automatic promotion because it is the plan. Football most definately does not work like that and the fans who do state Slade will get us mid table and then by default we will just stroll to automatic promotion need a reality check imo.

How dare the fans have reasonable expectations!? We should settle for nothing less than 33 points from 33, with a goal difference of +40, 0 goals against.

Any thought of perspective if plane out of order!

No, of course the division won't roll over for us next year. They won't do it this year. And if we want championship football for our first season at Falmer, we also can't expect the championship clubs to go easy on us if we do go up this year so that we survive in a division we haven't survived in for a few years.

It isn't about being happy with a mid table finish this year under the belief we will walk the division next year.

It is about understanding a new squad is coming together, and is improving, and that the coming together period, will make promotion difficult this year, but by giving the team a season without pressure, giving them time to come together as a unit form cohesive partnerships etc. it will make us a dominant force and put us in a better position to go up next year than we are this year.

I don't think the attitude that we can occasionally take a season to come together (which can turn into several seasons if we keep changing the manager) and push on the following year is any more concerning than the attitude that we should expect our team to be pushing for promotion ever year and anything less is the end of the world and requires removing the manager.

But wasn't last season supposed to be one of "consolidation " and the season before that? How many seasons of "consolidation" do we need before we decide we want to progress? It would be useful to know in advance if its to be a season of consolidation as then I can stay at home.

How many seasons of consolidation? I guess it depends on stability of the manager. Two seasons ago we were ready to push on with Dean, but he got bumped. So we needed a season to consolidate for MA's plans.

This is slade's season of consolidation. If we bring in another manager, we will need more time to "consolidate" under the new manager's vision.

What do you want: move past the consolidation period, or change managers? You can't have both.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Bloom needs to get the cheque book out at the next transfer window and spend big - the Coxes, El-Abds and Gary Harts are not going to get us where we want to be FFS!!

If he's investing £90 million in the new stadium the acquisition of 3/4 new players in the circa £1m price bracket should not be too much of a hardship - we will need to be spending that to stay in the higher level (if we get there!)anyway!!

Good point, well made. Tho he also needs to have every confidence that the manager in place will spend that sort of money wisely.

 

[Acker79]

Lets look at this from a different angle, Steve Gritt is a legend for saving us from almost certain relegation to the conference, would you want him back here as manager ?
Slade saved us last year but everyone has a sell by date and his is approaching fast.

Let's look at that from another angle: McGhee saved us from relegation, then got us relegated, but US would have loved to have kept him, does that mean we can't trust US's (and other people who think we should have kept McGhee) opinions on our current management predicament?

Slade =/= Gritt =/= McGhee. Each situation is unique.

 

[shwoody1]

I think there are a good number of fans whoever who actually enjoy us being shit and being in the lwoer leagues and fighting relegation as it makes them feel like they are more of a fans for supporting such a shit team, a football martyr if you like. They will take tales of Hereford and Gillingham to their graves and will recite how BAD BHAFC were to anyone who will listen.

This type of fan dreads success as it will bring in thousands of " new " fans and butterfly fans. If BHAFC are successful and have gates of 22000, the 2000 or so who would watch them if they played in the Brighton league in Preston Park are no longer martyrs and their importances dwindles.

cant believe you can post such utter shit mate.

 

[dougdeep]

cant believe you can post such utter shit mate.

You'll get used to it.

 

[severnside gull]

Well said Acker79 and I'm with Dougdeep on this one. Have always resisted calling US a prat but......................

 

[Horney]

I go to BHA games to see the side win. How the team play is secondary.
I've been a fan since 1965 and I always feel better over the weekend if the team have won, irrespective of how they've played.
I am still smarting from yesterday. The team started well, got a grip on the game and went two goals ahead. They then proceeded to turn in an abject second half display and could have lost.
So far this season, a minimum of 8 points have been chucked away by poor defending, ill discipline, inconsistency, wrong tactics and sheer unadulterated unprofessionalism.
I hate going to Withdean to watch defeat after defeat and game after game chucked away. I hate all this doom and gloom at home games. Quiet, nervous fans waiting for the inevitable.
So as you've probably guessed, I am singularly unimpressed at what is currently going on.
Managers not confident in their own ability demand more time. They don't often get it.