nevergoagain
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Will ruin our next European tour
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[Politics] Are Labour going to turn this country around?
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Will ruin our next European tour
Rdodge30
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- Dec 30, 2022
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There have been a few occasions in the last six months or so when I have noticed Slippery Ed and thought to myself he seems like he still wants number 10. I still think that and will be very interested to see how the Reeves/Miliband 3rd runway plans develop.
It would appear at first glance that he will eventually have to resign - surely no amount of book cooking will bring in an airport expansion under net zero budget?
Of course, the one thing we can all look forward to is Boris lying on the runway in front of the bulldozers instead of lying in parliament
It would appear at first glance that he will eventually have to resign - surely no amount of book cooking will bring in an airport expansion under net zero budget?
Of course, the one thing we can all look forward to is Boris lying on the runway in front of the bulldozers instead of lying in parliament
And her solution to the housing problems seems to be to demolish five villages / 700 houses.
Machiavelli
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I appreciate you're in the game, but I'm a little sceptical on your first point (but not the other three). Can you link an article or two that you think captures where we are on that front please -- specifically in terms of flying + fuels.
It’s just come to me, Reeves sounds like Raquel, Del Boys Mrs
darkwolf666
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This time next year we’ll all be millionaires!!!
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Loving her double act with The Great Starmondo.
Kierboy, i’ve got Milirod on the phone, i think he’s applying for your job
Rdodge30
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- Dec 30, 2022
- 951
I didn’t really know what to expect regarding Sustainable Aviation Fuel either but this was on GOV.UK (Jan 1st 2025):
The SAF Mandate starts in 2025 at 2% of total UK jet fuel demand, increasing linearly to 10% in 2030 and then to 22% in 2040.
From 2040, the obligation will remain at 22% of total UK jet fuel demand until there is greater certainty regarding SAF supply.
The SAF Mandate could deliver up to 6.3 megatonnes of carbon savings per year by 2040.
- Jan 18, 2009
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What was Brown lauded for, his honesty for getting it wrong?
Gordon Brown admits 'big mistake' over banking crisis
Gordon Brown admits he made a "big mistake" over the handling of financial regulation in the run-up to the UK's banking crisis of 2008.
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Sometimes you and your fellow travellers should stop singing. It was Brown that approved a knighthood for Fred Goodwin, and told the FCA to stand down on the takeover of ABN AMRO. He was a f*cking disaster.
Like his mate Mandelson, Brown has since recognised his I’ll judged mistakes…………you can ignore that apologies of course.
Machiavelli
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Very cunning.What was Brown lauded for, his honesty for getting it wrong?
Gordon Brown admits 'big mistake' over banking crisis
Gordon Brown admits he made a "big mistake" over the handling of financial regulation in the run-up to the UK's banking crisis of 2008.search.app
Sometimes you and your fellow travellers should stop singing. It was Brown that approved a knighthood for Fred Goodwin, and told the FCA to stand down on the takeover of ABN AMRO. He was a f*cking disaster.
Like his mate Mandelson, Brown has since recognised his I’ll judged mistakes…………you can ignore that apologies of course.
You've somehow managed to read my post as some celebration of Brown. No idea why, beyond you engaging in yet another one of your performances. He was one of the culprits following on from Thatcher to continue the expansion of the financial sector, which is precisely what left the UK so exposed to 2008.
Get back to reading Breitbart.
The Fits
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- Jun 29, 2020
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Whilst the additional runway WILL, not could, produce 4.4 tonnes of carbon every year. At least.
Better hope this runway takes a bloody long time to build (I suspect in actuality it’ll never happen) because this miraculous green fuel will barely touch the sides of the entire carbon output of the airport.
It’s like deciding to eat Mars Bars because there’s a proposed reduction in the fat and sugar content whilst already only eating a shit load of Snickers and Smarties. It’s total baloney. You die on that diet before you get to 2040.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 26,215
There will be a monorail from Brighton station to Falmer before another runway at Heathrow gets built.
I'm not across the arguments and am therefore neither pro or against, but every single London Mayor has been against it.
It's an issue that splits both Labour and Conservatives parties.
I'm not across the arguments and am therefore neither pro or against, but every single London Mayor has been against it.
It's an issue that splits both Labour and Conservatives parties.
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- Jan 18, 2009
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No, not cunning at all, merely pointing out the FACTs of how 2008 was a deeper issue for the U.K. than it was in many other countries.
It’s not a party political point I don’t think it would have been different under the blue lot possibly it would have been worse, but they were not in charge then.
Since WW2 the British public have had financial mismanagement imposed on them by its elected leaders which by and large have been cycles of impoverishment. The pound has been regularly devalued whilst national debt has constantly risen and taxes today are at rates not seen since the WW2.
Maybe you’re too young or naive to see this longer term picture, Brown is just another member of the political cast that perhaps with the best of intentions created another cycle of impoverishment for the British public which came from 2008.
Lauding his reaction to the crisis, as you referenced, is like giving credit to Fred and Rose for their competence with laying patios.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
- 18,861
Surely any laudation of Gordon Brown needs to be given within the context of the financial mismanagement/decision to move wealth away from the electorate?
And of course it is totally possible to give someone credit for dealing with a situation well despite disliking their overall performance as a politician.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,149
what data are you using to support this "fact"?
A comparison with Johnson and Covid would be useful here.
Britain was profoundly under prepared for the issue at the top of its risk register in 2020; a pandemic. When faced with this challenge, Johnson got a lot of decisions wrong when trying to manage the issue. His contrived ‘bumbling fool’ persona alongside his ‘shopping trolley’ decision making was the last sort of leadership style the country needed. Perhaps tens of thousands of extra deaths can be attributed to his embarrassing recklessness.
The deregulation of the banking industry left Britain in a profoundly vulnerable state with her majesty’s opposition having called for further deregulation rather than hold the government to account for irresponsible policies and governance in the decade before the financial crash in 2008. Brown failed to recognise the issues and took the money instead. Unforgivable. Like most of the world, Britain was plunged into financial turmoil but Brown got most of the decisions right when managing the issue.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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My understanding is that the seeds for the 2008 crash were sown by the deregulation measures put in place by Thatcher and Regan in the 80s.
As Cunning (sic) alludes to though, the labour government were right leaning enough to continue this trend.
Despite a while thread harking back to the good old days of the 60s and 70s it is totally apparent that the UK electorate has no desire for a left leaning government. Despite it being left leaning ideas that created the 'golden age' people pine for.
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