[Politics] Are Labour going to turn this country around?

[beorhthelm]

Let me explain again. For example, let’s suppose there are currently 100 million seats on flights per year and we want to reduce flight emissions by 50%. That means we have to enforce an upper limit of 50 million seats on flights per year. We give everyone the UK an allowance of 1 flight. Now, not everyone wants to fly, so if you want to have an extra flight you can buy someone else’s allowance from them. You get your extra flight, someone who doesn’t fly gets some money, and emissions are cut by 50%.

While we’re at it, I’d also introduce a fat tax for heavier passengers.

again? didn't see any detail suggested before. either way if the intention is such a cut in total flights, just impose a 50 million seat-flight limit. no real need to add any trading, who does that benefit other than well off frequent flyers?

 

[dsr-burnley]

again? didn't see any detail suggested before. either way if the intention is such a cut in total flights, just impose a 50 million seat-flight limit. no real need to add any trading, who does that benefit other than well off frequent flyers?

It was about the 1960's that package holidays abroad came down to the price where the working classes could afford them. I suspect your policy would take us back to the fifties and make foreign holidays once more the preserve of the rich, and only the rich.

Herr Tubthumper's idea (which I don't agree with either, but that's by the by) at least gives the less well-off the chance of either a foreign holiday or a cash boost. Your idea gives them neither.

I wonder if it would be practicable to prevent people sailing to France and flying from there? Or would this be a worldwide policy (not USA under Trump, obvliously)?

 

[BadFish]

What are you going on about, Gordon Brown was PM from 2007 to 2010. The 2008 car crash was nothing to do with Cameron or Brexit.

I doubt nations around the world took much attention to the financial guidance provided by man who said he had abolished boom and bust in the U.K. and knighted Fred Goodwin for his services to banking.

It’s like asking Peter Sutcliffe for advice on the best tools for DIY.

I am saying that the reason the crash caused more problems for the UK than anywhere is was because of the austerity policies introduced on the back of it. Nowhere did i suggest that the crash was anything to do with the Cameron. However the reaction to the crash is what caused the problems for the UK, introduced by Cameron and including Brexit.

I read somewhere recently that someone in the Brown's labour government was invised to advise a number of other countries on their stimulus plan to kick start economies after the crash. Much like we did over here in Australia. If I remember rightly it was Peter Mandleson or Alistair Darling - anyway I can't find reference to that part so perhaps I shall retract the part about him advising other countries. Although Darling's handling of the crisis has generally been lauded.

 

[beorhthelm]

I am saying that the reason the crash caused more problems for the UK than anywhere is was because of the austerity policies introduced on the back of it. Nowhere did i suggest that the crash was anything to do with the Cameron. However the reaction to the crash is what caused the problems for the UK, introduced by Cameron and including Brexit.

I read somewhere recently that someone in the Brown's labour government was invised to advise a number of other countries on their stimulus plan to kick start economies after the crash. Much like we did over here in Australia. If I remember rightly it was Peter Mandleson or Alistair Darling - anyway I can't find reference to that part so perhaps I shall retract the part about him advising other countries. Although Darling's handling of the crisis has generally been lauded.

it didn't! remember Greece? nearly same occured in Italy and Spain, where GDP is still below 2008, France and Germany GDP growth average is half before then. Europe has still not really recoverd, productivity and GDP have flat lined, while inflation and demand on services went up. we're few percent different here and there.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I am saying that the reason the crash caused more problems for the UK than anywhere is was because of the austerity policies introduced on the back of it. Nowhere did i suggest that the crash was anything to do with the Cameron. However the reaction to the crash is what caused the problems for the UK, introduced by Cameron and including Brexit.

I read somewhere recently that someone in the Brown's labour government was invised to advise a number of other countries on their stimulus plan to kick start economies after the crash. Much like we did over here in Australia. If I remember rightly it was Peter Mandleson or Alistair Darling - anyway I can't find reference to that part so perhaps I shall retract the part about him advising other countries. Although Darling's handling of the crisis has generally been lauded.

Barak Obama praised Gordon Brown for his integrity and advice.

BBC NEWS | Politics | Obama praises Brown's 'integrity'

news.bbc.co.uk

 

[BadFish]

it didn't! remember Greece? nearly same occured in Italy and Spain, where GDP is still below 2008, France and Germany GDP growth average is half before then. Europe has still not really recoverd, productivity and GDP have flat lined, while inflation and demand on services went up. we're few percent different here and there.

Okay, well according to @cunning fergus it did.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

That all sounds nice, but doesn't it assume 100% occupancy on all flights can be achieved, and those flights are all going to the right destinations?

Just nice destinations.

 

[Machiavelli]

I am saying that the reason the crash caused more problems for the UK than anywhere is was because of the austerity policies introduced on the back of it. Nowhere did i suggest that the crash was anything to do with the Cameron. However the reaction to the crash is what caused the problems for the UK, introduced by Cameron and including Brexit.

I read somewhere recently that someone in the Brown's labour government was invised to advise a number of other countries on their stimulus plan to kick start economies after the crash. Much like we did over here in Australia. If I remember rightly it was Peter Mandleson or Alistair Darling - anyway I can't find reference to that part so perhaps I shall retract the part about him advising other countries. Although Darling's handling of the crisis has generally been lauded.

The UK were more affected by 2008 for the reason that its financial sector had become such a large % of the economy, a far higher proportion that most if not all other countries. Austerity didn't help either, although the deficits did need to come down as they were really high post-2008. Brown has been roundly lauded for the response to 2008.

 

[The Clamp]

Let me explain again. For example, let’s suppose there are currently 100 million seats on flights per year and we want to reduce flight emissions by 50%. That means we have to enforce an upper limit of 50 million seats on flights per year. We give everyone the UK an allowance of 1 flight. Now, not everyone wants to fly, so if you want to have an extra flight you can buy someone else’s allowance from them. You get your extra flight, someone who doesn’t fly gets some money, and emissions are cut by 50%.

While we’re at it, I’d also introduce a fat tax for heavier passengers.

Probably best to allow everyone two flights.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Probably best to allow everyone two flights.

Good point.

 

[Moshe Gariani]

Chancellor Rachel Reeves is in Oxfordshire to deliver a speech on the government's plans to boost economic growth.

 

[nevergoagain]

Chancellor Rachel Reeves is in Oxfordshire to deliver a speech on the government's plans to boost economic growth.

She's having a go at the newts now. She's making it up as she goes along.

 

[Moshe Gariani]

She's having a go at the newts now. She's making it up as she goes along.

bats as well

 

[Bry Nylon]

Chancellor Rachel Reeves is in Oxfordshire to deliver a speech on the government's plans to boost economic growth.

Well, thank goodness for that. It's about time someone in government shone a light on the left-behind communities of Chipping Norton and Henley-on-Thames.

 

[LamieRobertson]

bats as well

Some have said she’s a bit batty

 

[Bodian]

Probably best to allow everyone two flights.

Although just one flight would also solve the net immigration concerns!

 

[Insel affe]

No

 

[rippleman]

So her solution to the climate crisis is to built a new airport runway? Am I understanding this right? Or have she and Starmer leapt on board the climate denier bus?

 

[Nibbler]

So her solution to the climate crisis is to built a new airport runway? Am I understanding this right? Or have she and Starmer leapt on board the climate denier bus?

I was initially baffled.

But then I realised that once it is built (and provided ten years worth of jobs for the construction workers) we can decide not to actually use it. A bit like HS2.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

So her solution to the climate crisis is to built a new airport runway? Am I understanding this right? Or have she and Starmer leapt on board the climate denier bus?

Greener fuels coming
Increased growth extra flights bring
Less disruption for customers
More Tax