Are conspiracy theories destroying democracy?

[symyjym]

Its written in plain English.. only 2 questions requiring either a yes or no answer per question. I do feel however that you will answer no for question 2 though ;-)

Err, so you haven't been reading any of my posts over the last week then have you. All of my answers are contained within this thread and I am not going to double up on them for your sake if you took no notice the first, second or third time round.

 

[Goldstone76]

No and No.

By the way I would put a BIT more credence on your ramblings if they were not so full of grammatical and spelling errors (e.g. beleive)

Just saying like.

Your quite correct I believe!

Fair enough for the 9/11 conspiracy but considering your saying that governments do lie its not a long leap to assume that they have lied in whole or part about 9/11. Far to many holes in the official line and far to many people (police, firemen, engineers, architects, ex CIA, ex FBI) etc. would not agree with you regards 9/11.

9/11 suited the government agenda as Ive explained earlier.

 

[One Love]

I guess you havent heard of dissinformation and smear campaigns. The security services are very good at that! And they have been doing it for a very long time. The fact that the official investigations were flawed and didnt even take into account key witness statements doesnt bother you. The call from family an expert groups for an independent and non biased investgation which has to date been denied doesnt bother you. The fact that there is a movement requesting the release of classified documents and video tape doesnt raise any suspicions for you? So all is nicely wrapped up and tickety boo then??

You have leapt to numerous assumptions based on my questioning your version of events.

My opinion, for what it's worth, is that there are a number of anomalies and inconsistencies with the official story. At one time it interested me and I would of course love for the truth to out.

However the more I looked at it, the more ridiculous theories came out, like the "there were no planes " story. I can imagine that some of these were put out by the powers that be to cloud the truth, that is certainly a possibility. However having debated with people about it I came to the conclusion that most CTers had completely lost the ability to look at anything objectively. They knew all the material that argued for the conspiracy and zero about those that debunked it.

Then I lost interest because people like you (no offence intended) will stop the truth ever coming out.

I only tend to join these threads to question theories that make no logical sense. Why? I don't know because you won't listen to logic.

 

[One Love]

Was there a conspiracy on 9/11 by the government to suppress the truth of what happened? Do you beleive that governments always tell the truth?

Possibly

No

I don't know why I answered your questions because you don't do the courtesy of answering those put to you.

 

[Goldstone76]

You have leapt to numerous assumptions based on my questioning your version of events.

My opinion, for what it's worth, is that there are a number of anomalies and inconsistencies with the official story. At one time it interested me and I would of course love for the truth to out.

However the more I looked at it, the more ridiculous theories came out, like the "there were no planes " story. I can imagine that some of these were put out by the powers that be to cloud the truth, that is certainly a possibility. However having debated with people about it I came to the conclusion that most CTers had completely lost the ability to look at anything objectively. They knew all the material that argued for the conspiracy and zero about those that debunked it.

Then I lost interest because people like you (no offence intended) will stop the truth ever coming out.

I only tend to join these threads to question theories that make no logical sense. Why? I don't know because you won't listen to logic.

You have leapt to numerous assumptions based on my questioning your version of events.

My opinion, for what it's worth, is that there are a number of anomalies and inconsistencies with the official story. At one time it interested me and I would of course love for the truth to out.

However the more I looked at it, the more ridiculous theories came out, like the "there were no planes " story. I can imagine that some of these were put out by the powers that be to cloud the truth, that is certainly a possibility. However having debated with people about it I came to the conclusion that most CTers had completely lost the ability to look at anything objectively. They knew all the material that argued for the conspiracy and zero about those that debunked it.

Then I lost interest because people like you (no offence intended) will stop the truth ever coming out.

I only tend to join these threads to question theories that make no logical sense. Why? I don't know because you won't listen to logic.

I do agree with you that some suggestions are ridiculous.. holograms for aircraft for example but I see this as government disinformation as should be expected. There are CTs that go way beyond fantasy. Ive looked at this a different way. The motives, background, the run up, the personalities involved and their associations with the arms and oil industries plus of course their associations with the Saudis. The neoconservatives in the 90s became very influential and 9/11 is just all to perfect for the Bush regime to implement what he demanded as soon as he got into office. 9/11 was essential and is to date one of the most defining moments in history. Anything less than what happened on 9/11 would not have given the needed leverage the Bush regime needed. The documentary Hubris gives a very good insight into what motivated the key players. Its blatantly obvious that huge lies were told in order to get what Bush wanted. Those that surrounded Bush (Cheney, Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz for example) are the neocons.. the extremists. The Wolfowitz Doctrine gives clues as to how in the 90's the Bush administration would be run.

In terms of democracy the USA has because of 9/11 taken a step backwards with the Patriot Act. We now find that the NSA etc. has been collecting vast amounts of data from around the world and with whistleblowers slowly but surly we find the world isnt the place we are being sold by mainstream media.

 

[Goldstone76]

Possibly

No

I don't know why I answered your questions because you don't do the courtesy of answering those put to you.

Forgive me.. What question have I not answered? Things get lost in here..

 

[symyjym]

Forgive me.. What question have I not answered? Things get lost in here..

Maybe you can answer this as you have avoided it several times.

What are your thoughts on the Richard Gage WTC collapse demonstration? And do you think it is less than scientific, because quite frankly if anyone believes his explaination on the evidence he is providing here, they will believe anything.

You never answered this one

 

[One Love]

Forgive me.. What question have I not answered? Things get lost in here..

Fair enough it might not be you. Unfortunately posters on one side of the fence get grouped together in threads like these.

 

[Goldstone76]

You never answered this one

haha... very funny. Heres one for you..

 

[The Truth]

It's amazing how some users think alternative theories behind 9/11 are 'made-up from the top of the head'.
There are many witnesses who've stated that the media gave a false report on the true events. It's absurd that some people are getting so irate about 9/11 conspiracy theories when so many people have died due to the official version. Even if it was a plane that hit the building, why are you so sure terroists were on it? Do you really think Bin Laden was behind this? If so, do you really think what happened to his 'dead' body was true? Do you also believe in the official version behind the invasion of Iraq? What about the chemical weapons in Syria, do you believe this too?
I think the 'official' versions are what need questioning. It's not like a 9/11 conspiracy theory has ever resulted in millions of deaths?

 

[One Love]

Ive looked at this a different way. The motives, background, the run up, the personalities involved and their associations with the arms and oil industries plus of course their associations with the Saudis. The neoconservatives in the 90s became very influential and 9/11 is just all to perfect for the Bush regime to implement what he demanded as soon as he got into office. 9/11 was essential and is to date one of the most defining moments in history. Anything less than what happened on 9/11 would not have given the needed leverage the Bush regime needed. The documentary Hubris gives a very good insight into what motivated the key players. Its blatantly obvious that huge lies were told in order to get what Bush wanted. Those that surrounded Bush (Cheney, Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz for example) are the neocons.. the extremists. The Wolfowitz Doctrine gives clues as to how in the 90's the Bush administration would be run.

In terms of democracy the USA has because of 9/11 taken a step backwards with the Patriot Act. We now find that the NSA etc. has been collecting vast amounts of data from around the world and with whistleblowers slowly but surly we find the world isnt the place we are being sold by mainstream media.

You can't just assume something happens a certain way just because of motive.

The main driving force behind the Diana Conspiracy was that the muslim community were saying before her death that the British would not let her marry a muslim. That doesn't give any more credence to the conspiracy.

 

[symyjym]

haha... very funny. Heres one for you..

The difference between the video I gave you and you gave me is that Richard Gage is the leading campaigner in the truth for 911.

Great way to avoid a direct question again though

 

[Goldstone76]

You can't just assume something happens a certain way just because of motive.

The main driving force behind the Diana Conspiracy was that the muslim community were saying before her death that the British would not let her marry a muslim. That doesn't give any more credence to the conspiracy.

Why can you not 'assume'? The foundations were laid pre 9/11. 9/11 didnt just happen without the CIA knowing. They knew.

Again there are discrepancies with the Diana saga. Most recently with the SAS being implicated. Diana having a Muslim child? Diana knew family secrets. She wrote that she feared for her life etc etc.. Dont really want to go into this subject.. 9/11 is more than enough!

 

[Goldstone76]

The difference between the video I gave you and you gave me is that Richard Gage is the leading campaigner in the truth for 911.

Great way to avoid a direct question again though

Duhhh.. of course I know who Gage is. And so what? Gage was showing freefall verses resistance. The Twin Towers and Building 7 showed no resistance..

 

[The Truth]

You can't just assume something happens a certain way just because of motive..

What are your thoughts on the catch Kony campaign? Do you think Jason Russell's 'invisible children' media campaign was trust worthy enough to allow a US invasion into Africa? Do you believe the media there too?
The video stated that Kony is the next Bin Laden.

 

[Goldstone76]

What are your thoughts on the catch Kony campaign? Do you think Jason Russell's invisibles media campaign was trust worthy enough to allow a US invasion into Africa?
The video stated that Kony is the next Bin Laden.

Ive not looked into this.. BUT I would say this. Its not difficult to recruit terrorists and its certainly not difficult to create another Bin Laden. The 'war on terror' will outlast us all and thats a huge tragedy. The irony is that US foreign policy creates the problem in the first place. Its self perpetuating conflict with few terrorists needed who will use increasingly more technological weaponry including an increasing potential for NBC low level warfare. Its all about the money and control of resources!

 

[The Truth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc This video has woken a lot of people up to media manipulation of recent. People will join the dots together and question the chance of previous false flags. It only seems logical to do so.

 

[hybrid_x]

Nibble...these may help you out...

 

[symyjym]

Duhhh.. of course I know who Gage is. And so what? Gage was showing freefall verses resistance. The Twin Towers and Building 7 showed no resistance..

Yep using cardboard boxes doesn't come close to replicating the science and scale of what happened. A dumb example by your leader.

The towers didn't freefall anyway as explained in the video I uploaded earlier.



You haven't recruited any converts on here so your mission has been a complete failure.

That's all I have to say on the matter, but good luck on your quest and don't forget to set up a direct debit to Richard Gage to help him on his truth mission.

 

[hybrid_x]

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