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[Albion] An olive branch to the Potter Inns tonight



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Lever

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Feb 6, 2019
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Last night I was completely shattered by the result.

Today I feel that the next couple of matches are the biggest test for Graham Potter and the team; the best managers have the ability to pick themselves and the team up and go again with even greater determination. Let's see....
 




vagabond

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May 17, 2019
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I'm still firmly in the Potter In camp.

He's hardly had any time at this level. He got played by Hodgson last night, fair enough. But Potter will learn. Even if we do go down, and I don't think we will, I'm still Team Potter.

All you 50+ need to go to specsavers.

Well said Muzz.
 


nwgull

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Back in the real world we r 5th from bottom 4 points outside the bottom 3


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In the same real world, prior to our recent upturn in form and run we were 4th bottom and only 2 points outside the bottom 3 having played 2 games more than Fulham. We were also 5 points behind Newcastle, who are now below us.
 




Goberpiles

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Feb 25, 2017
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Can’t make this up beat spurs and Liverpool fail to beat other relegation contenders and make those wins worth less then they should have been, Fulham picking up results is not helpful.


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KeegansHairPiece

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Caught the wrong side, fails to tackle, fails to foul, fails to block.

Sorry, I didn't suggest Burn was perfect, I just said that given we struggled on the left side in a season we conceded 60 goals and finished on 36 points, he wasn't spotted as being able to contribute to the side. Hughton persisted with Bong and Bernardo, and even Balogun while not giving Burn a single PL appearance. Crazy he didn't spot his potential.
 


vagabond

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So with the money available to him to buy those players, he still thought the best approach for Brighton was "More of the same"
Was Hughton unaware that we were tracking these players? Trossard/Webster/Maupay started in the following season, Bissouma was signed under Hughton.

I loved CH and didn't want to see him go, but IMO, he didn't buy in to Tony's vision for the club.
Maybe it's because of his time at Spurs, but I don't think he genuinely believed that we could compete in this division by playing decent football.

Sure if we brought Hughton back to manage Potter's squad, I'm sure he would play better football, but managing the transition?
I don't believe Hughton thought that was possible,

I genuinely think a big problem we, as a club, haven’t solved, is the loss of Murray.

A natural goalscorer who could play shite, yet somehow get a deflection of his ass in the 89th minute to win a game. That pure instinctiveness in front of goal is something we’ve been lacking as a team ever since.

The question is who do you blame for that? Clearly the manager is setting us up to create nearly 30 chances in a game, to dominate possession. If it’s a personnel issue then the fault has to be with recruitment, has to be.
 




neilbard

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I'm still firmly in the Potter In camp.

He's hardly had any time at this level. He got played by Hodgson last night, fair enough. But Potter will learn. Even if we do go down, and I don't think we will, I'm still Team Potter.

All you 50+ need to go to specsavers.

25 shots, 5 on target, me thinks it should be our ****ing strikers who need to take a trip to specsavers. :whistle:
 


Uh_huh_him

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How is 5th from bottom and four points clear improving ?
As for what are you , dont care


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If you can't see the difference between our current football and standing, I genuinely pity you.
 


Uh_huh_him

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I genuinely think a big problem we, as a club, haven’t solved, is the loss of Murray.

A natural goalscorer who could play shite, yet somehow get a deflection of his ass in the 89th minute to win a game. That pure instinctiveness in front of goal is something we’ve been lacking as a team ever since.

The question is who do you blame for that? Clearly the manager is setting us up to create nearly 30 chances in a game, to dominate possession. If it’s a personnel issue then the fault has to be with recruitment, has to be.

The fault is with the recruitment policy overall not the recruitment itself.
But that policy is integral to the strength of the overall squad.
We either break the bank for the elusive striker or we have a deep squad of similar quality players.

Tony/Ashworth and Potter know what the plan is.
1) Create loads of opportunities for mid-level strikers whio should get enough goals to keep us competitive.
2) Wait for one of our punts on kids/ overseas strikers ends up being a genuine 20 goals a season striker.

It's not a terrible plan.
But it won't keep the pitchfork carrying mob happy.
 






doogie004

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In the same real world, prior to our recent upturn in form and run we were 4th bottom and only 2 points outside the bottom 3 having played 2 games more than Fulham. We were also 5 points behind Newcastle, who are now below us.

Al I’m saying is what we all agree on our current crop of strikers are barely good enough for the championship let alone premier league . This can’t be just down to bad luck ?


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Springal

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Al I’m saying is what we all agree on our current crop of strikers are barely good enough for the championship let alone premier league . This can’t be just down to bad luck ?


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Maupay scored 37 goals in 2 seasons in the Championship. I am not sure that is 'barely good enough'
 






Springal

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That’s his level prem not I’m afraid


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You said he was barely good enough for the Championship. 37 goals in 2 seasons shows he is.

Which strikers do you think we should sign? If Championship top scorers are not good enough for us, then who is?
 


doogie004

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You said he was barely good enough for the Championship. 37 goals in 2 seasons shows he is.

Which strikers do you think we should sign? If Championship top scorers are not good enough for us, then who is?

Do you think the current crop are ok then?
Maupay lost all confidence plus poor decision making
Aj gets on from being nowhere on bench in recent weeks
Tau - god knows
Connolly- needs to be on loan at a championship team
Swiss roll - god knows
Still think we should of tried with Callum Wilson and Ollie Watkins
One thing for sure Maupay not going to save us like Murray did


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vagabond

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The fault is with the recruitment policy overall not the recruitment itself.
But that policy is integral to the strength of the overall squad.
We either break the bank for the elusive striker or we have a deep squad of similar quality players.

Tony/Ashworth and Potter know what the plan is.
1) Create loads of opportunities for mid-level strikers whio should get enough goals to keep us competitive.
2) Wait for one of our punts on kids/ overseas strikers ends up being a genuine 20 goals a season striker.

It's not a terrible plan.
But it won't keep the pitchfork carrying mob happy.

If we had just turned even half of our draws to wins we’d be mid table, and you’d assume that most of the Potter out brigade would be quiet. But who knows, they’d probably moan we weren’t in Europe or something.

Recruitment deserve huge credit for many great players and deals they’ve done for us. Lamptey, Velts, Alzate, Webster etc. But they haven’t delivered for us in the striker department. If Maupay is our best (and I do like him) then that is objectively not good enough for us.
 




Springal

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Do you think the current crop are ok then?
Maupay lost all confidence plus poor decision making
Aj gets on from being nowhere on bench in recent weeks
Tau - god knows
Connolly- needs to be on loan at a championship team
Swiss roll - god knows
Still think we should of tried with Callum Wilson and Ollie Watkins
One thing for sure Maupay not going to save us like Murray did


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AJ has been injured - but agreed he is not good enough.
Tau - good enough for top clubs in Belgium, Champions League football but again not deemed good enough for PL.
Zeqiri - One for the future.

Watkins - his stats were no better than Maupay in the Championship, so I can't believe anyone at the time would have said why Watkins was decent, Maupay was not good enough.

I'm still not sure where we should be signing players from that are immediately good enough to become 15 goal a year PL players.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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A few of us have have seen this result coming for a long time. January and February on NSC have been difficult months having to read the smug comments from the Potter sycophants.

Some of us always saw the flaws in Potter’s philosophy but were shouted down and called ‘bedwetters’. We could see that Potter’s inflexibility or reluctance to change his system against teams who defend deep and in numbers would not yield anything against our relegation rivals. The pedestrian pace for large swathes of each match might look great in the possession stats, but the only column that matters rarely exceeds 1 at the end of a game.

To the Inners. Come on. Let’s get real. We are in serious danger of going down with Potter at the helm.

Tonight I extend a hand of friendship. We’re all fans of the club - not Potter. Let’s unite as a fan base again and move forward together.

Ah, that warm fuzzy feeling of being patronised.........................
 


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