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[Albion] An olive branch to the Potter Inns tonight



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Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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A few of us have have seen this result coming for a long time. January and February on NSC have been difficult months having to read the smug comments from the Potter sycophants.

Some of us always saw the flaws in Potter’s philosophy but were shouted down and called ‘bedwetters’. We could see that Potter’s inflexibility or reluctance to change his system against teams who defend deep and in numbers would not yield anything against our relegation rivals. The pedestrian pace for large swathes of each match might look great in the possession stats, but the only column that matters rarely exceeds 1 at the end of a game.

To the Inners. Come on. Let’s get real. We are in serious danger of going down with Potter at the helm.

Tonight I extend a hand of friendship. We’re all fans of the club - not Potter. Let’s unite as a fan base again and move forward together.


You do know EXACTLY what you can do with your olive branch don’t you? I hope it’s a very big one :lolol:
 




doogie004

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Oct 12, 2008
6,525
wisborough green
AJ has been injured - but agreed he is not good enough.
Tau - good enough for top clubs in Belgium, Champions League football but again not deemed good enough for PL.
Zeqiri - One for the future.

Watkins - his stats were no better than Maupay in the Championship, so I can't believe anyone at the time would have said why Watkins was decent, Maupay was not good enough.

I'm still not sure where we should be signing players from that are immediately good enough to become 15 goal a year PL players.

I accept that any signing is a gamble but that’s football . But plea pPPPsed and Murray aside it is any area where we have always been short p . Pe


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NooBHA

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Jan 13, 2015
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If we had just turned even half of our draws to wins we’d be mid table, and you’d assume that most of the Potter out brigade would be quiet. But who knows, they’d probably moan we weren’t in Europe or something.

Recruitment deserve huge credit for many great players and deals they’ve done for us. Lamptey, Velts, Alzate, Webster etc. But they haven’t delivered for us in the striker department. If Maupay is our best (and I do like him) then that is objectively not good enough for us.

For what it's worth mate - Some of the things you are saying is creating the very backlash against Potter that you are vehemently defending against.

I think Potter is doing exactly what he has been told to do and what he was brought in to do so I don't think there can be too many complaints from the Club. - Your posts denigrating the fans that don't agree with that opinion is creating a ''them and us'' mentality.

By attacking or singling out the people who disagree with you about the Merits of Potter you are alienating them - They in turn attack Potter to get back at you and this will happen every time that there are Upturns and Downturns in results.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with you defending Graham Potter given that you like the job that he is doing and you should continue to do so; however, attacking those who disagree with you isn't going to reduce the negativity. In fact it will have the reverse affect. So I would continue to defend Potter if I was you but if you cut out attacks on groups of people then they might stop the retaliation..
 


Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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For what it's worth mate - Some of the things you are saying is creating the very backlash against Potter that you are vehemently defending against.

I think Potter is doing exactly what he has been told to do and what he was brought in to do so I don't think there can be too many complaints from the Club. - Your posts denigrating the fans that don't agree with that opinion is creating a ''them and us'' mentality.

By attacking or singling out the people who disagree with you about the Merits of Potter you are alienating them - They in turn attack Potter to get back at you and this will happen every time that there are Upturns and Downturns in results.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with you defending Graham Potter given that you like the job that he is doing and you should continue to do so; however, attacking those who disagree with you isn't going to reduce the negativity. In fact it will have the reverse affect. So I would defend potter if I was you but if you cut out attacks on groups of people then they might stop the retaliation..

Yep, no argument from this Potter fanboy. We are underachieving in the most frustrating season I have ever seen. I totally get people losing their shit about it.

I am, however, enjoying what is happening now far more than I did under your mate in the last 3 months of his reign and I do accept that we may not survive this time. I will take a relegation not to go through that again, which I accept is not a logical idea.
 


vagabond

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May 17, 2019
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For what it's worth mate - Some of the things you are saying is creating the very backlash against Potter that you are vehemently defending against.

I think Potter is doing exactly what he has been told to do and what he was brought in to do so I don't think there can be too many complaints from the Club. - Your posts denigrating the fans that don't agree with that opinion is creating a ''them and us'' mentality.

By attacking or singling out the people who disagree with you about the Merits of Potter you are alienating them - They in turn attack Potter to get back at you and this will happen every time that there are Upturns and Downturns in results.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with you defending Graham Potter given that you like the job that he is doing and you should continue to do so; however, attacking those who disagree with you isn't going to reduce the negativity. In fact it will have the reverse affect. So I would continue to defend Potter if I was you but if you cut out attacks on groups of people then they might stop the retaliation..

I think you’re taking it all too seriously mate.
 




albionalex

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Feb 26, 2009
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For what it's worth mate - Some of the things you are saying is creating the very backlash against Potter that you are vehemently defending against.

I think Potter is doing exactly what he has been told to do and what he was brought in to do so I don't think there can be too many complaints from the Club. - Your posts denigrating the fans that don't agree with that opinion is creating a ''them and us'' mentality.

By attacking or singling out the people who disagree with you about the Merits of Potter you are alienating them - They in turn attack Potter to get back at you and this will happen every time that there are Upturns and Downturns in results.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with you defending Graham Potter given that you like the job that he is doing and you should continue to do so; however, attacking those who disagree with you isn't going to reduce the negativity. In fact it will have the reverse affect. So I would continue to defend Potter if I was you but if you cut out attacks on groups of people then they might stop the retaliation..

Bingo.
 


ferring seagull

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Dec 30, 2010
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Leaving aside the in fighting here the massive frustration for everyone, well almost everyone I imagine, is that the Albion are a very good team and so damn close to being a very successful one also. :bhasign:
 






albionalex

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He sets them up in a way that give the players 44 opportunities to score over two games, what more can he do? Score them himself? They need to be able to do something on their own.

The average xG of those shots is 0.08.

Maybe he could work on creating less chances but higher quality ones, playing with an extra striker rather than a creative midfielder or he could change our style completely.

I'm not saying he definitely should do any of those but the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
 


Swansman

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May 13, 2019
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The average xG of those shots is 0.08.

Maybe he could work on creating less chances but higher quality ones, playing with an extra striker rather than a creative midfielder or he could change our style completely.

I'm not saying he definitely should do any of those but the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

There's been different results though..
 






Aug 13, 2020
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Darlington
The average xG of those shots is 0.08.

Maybe he could work on creating less chances but higher quality ones, playing with an extra striker rather than a creative midfielder or he could change our style completely.

I'm not saying he definitely should do any of those but the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

It's only insane if you have no control over the outcome. The hope would be that we improve in playing this style and so create better chances. Or the forwards get better at burying them.
 


Guinness Boy

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For what it's worth mate - Some of the things you are saying is creating the very backlash against Potter that you are vehemently defending against.

I think Potter is doing exactly what he has been told to do and what he was brought in to do so I don't think there can be too many complaints from the Club. - Your posts denigrating the fans that don't agree with that opinion is creating a ''them and us'' mentality.

By attacking or singling out the people who disagree with you about the Merits of Potter you are alienating them - They in turn attack Potter to get back at you and this will happen every time that there are Upturns and Downturns in results.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with you defending Graham Potter given that you like the job that he is doing and you should continue to do so; however, attacking those who disagree with you isn't going to reduce the negativity. In fact it will have the reverse affect. So I would continue to defend Potter if I was you but if you cut out attacks on groups of people then they might stop the retaliation..

Spot on :thumbsup:

I think you’re taking it all too seriously mate.

Says the bloke who arrogantly offered NSC an olive branch after we beat Liverpool - since when everyone and their cat has done the same and we're now 4 points away from relegation and have just lost to our bitter rivals.

You also tried turning "Potter Out" into a trope, posing the point that people couldn't even spell his name. In fact many of his detractors were long time and eloquent contributors to this board, including the former editor of Gulls Eye and three moderators.
 


KeegansHairPiece

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The average xG of those shots is 0.08.

Maybe he could work on creating less chances but higher quality ones, playing with an extra striker rather than a creative midfielder or he could change our style completely.

I'm not saying he definitely should do any of those but the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

I saw a team, particularly 2nd half that tried a variety of solutions to breaking down Palace. We went from a 3-3-3-1, to a 4-4-2 and a few things inbetween. We tried long balls into channels, we tried one touch breaks, we tried working the ball out wide, we tried crossing from deep, shooting from outside the box. The definition of insanity is perhaps watching us play and not seeing the team trying a variety of things?

What fans are finding difficult to come to terms with is we are so good on the ball now, that teams are setting us against us as they would Man City; showing next to no ambition and staying completely compact around their box. We are suffering from being too good too early in our development because our results don't deserve the tactics being used against us. Probably why our results are decent against sides that have to attack us a bit as well, such as Leeds, Spurs and Liverpool, but we are lacking that quality that brings you a goal when you have a bus parked at one end.
 




Aug 13, 2020
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Darlington
Spot on :thumbsup:



Says the bloke who arrogantly offered NSC an olive branch after we beat Liverpool - since when everyone and their cat has done the same and we're now 4 points away from relegation and have just lost to our bitter rivals.

You also tried turning "Potter Out" into a trope, posing the point that people couldn't even spell his name. In fact many of his detractors were long time and eloquent contributors to this board, including the former editor of Gulls Eye and three moderators.

Vagabond and Graham Potter aside for a moment, you should definitely include "Long time and eloquent contributor" in your signature.
 


albionalex

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Feb 26, 2009
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I saw a team, particularly 2nd half that tried a variety of solutions to breaking down Palace. We went from a 3-3-3-1, to a 4-4-2 and a few things inbetween. We tried long balls into channels, we tried one touch breaks, we tried working the ball out wide, we tried crossing from deep, shooting from outside the box. The definition of insanity is perhaps watching us play and not seeing the team trying a variety of things?

What fans are finding difficult to come to terms with is we are so good on the ball now, that teams are setting us against us as they would Man City; showing next to no ambition and staying completely compact around their box. We are suffering from being too good too early in our development because our results don't deserve the tactics being used against us. Probably why our results are decent against sides that have to attack us a bit as well, such as Leeds, Spurs and Liverpool, but we are lacking that quality that brings you a goal when you have a bus parked at one end.

If by 'so good on the ball' you mean 'so good at passing it around with no intent', then you would be spot on.
 




midnight_rendezvous

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Aug 10, 2012
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If by 'so good on the ball' you mean 'so good at passing it around with no intent', then you would be spot on.

No intent? That'll be why, over two games, we had 50 add shots against Palace. Bemoan the result, but if you think that second half yesterday lacked intent, we must have been watching a different game.
 




Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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I saw a team, particularly 2nd half that tried a variety of solutions to breaking down Palace. We went from a 3-3-3-1, to a 4-4-2 and a few things inbetween. We tried long balls into channels, we tried one touch breaks, we tried working the ball out wide, we tried crossing from deep, shooting from outside the box. The definition of insanity is perhaps watching us play and not seeing the team trying a variety of things?

What fans are finding difficult to come to terms with is we are so good on the ball now, that teams are setting us against us as they would Man City; showing next to no ambition and staying completely compact around their box. We are suffering from being too good too early in our development because our results don't deserve the tactics being used against us. Probably why our results are decent against sides that have to attack us a bit as well, such as Leeds, Spurs and Liverpool, but we are lacking that quality that brings you a goal when you have a bus parked at one end.

All of this.

Detractors will counter with "we don't have the players to play that style of football"
But **** em.

I'm loving watching the football we are playing.
Just hoping we can get back to the Amex and roar the boys on, before the pitchfork mob have their way.
 


albionalex

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Feb 26, 2009
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Toronto
No intent? That'll be why, over two games, we had 50 add shots against Palace. Bemoan the result, but if you think that second half yesterday lacked intent, we must have been watching a different game.

That comment wasn't in relation to yesterday.

If you watch the likes of Leeds and Saints, whenever they have the ball they have intent. We oftentimes end up going from a position on the edge of the opponents box back to Sanchez. I get it, we want to keep possession, recycle it and attack again. But teams are more than happy for us to do that.
 


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