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Johnny RoastBeef

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Mar 16, 2005
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"Dear God! Do we have to choose between Graham Potter and Steve Cooper? We're missing out on everyone else!"

There's maybe a 5% chance of something that one of those two are coaching us next season...

See this as the anti-panic thread.

This is my (incomplete, because if I spend another hour on it I'd find a couple more) list of non-Cooper/Potter managers who I could imagine us appointing (in most cases to much excitement):

Unemployed
Gerhard Struber (last club RB Salzburg)
Mark van Bommel (Antwerp)
Gio van Bronckhorst (Rangers)
Stefano Pioli (Milan)
Pascal Jansen (AZ)
Javi Gracia (Leeds)
Quique Setién (Villarreal)
Bruno Genesio (Rennes)
Niko Kovac (Wolfsburg)
Will Still (Reims)
Scott Parker (Club Brugge)
Rafa Benitez (Celta Vigo)
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (Manchester United)
Laurent Blanc (Lyon)
Ruud van Nistelrooy (PSV)
Liam Rosenior (Hull)
Marcelo Gallardo (Saudi somewhere)
Michael Beale (Sunderland)
Philip Cocu (Vitesse)
Wouter Vrancken (Genk)

Employed
Thorsten Fink (St Truiden)
Luke O'Neil (Swansea)
Michael Carrick (Middlesbrough)
Carlos Corberan (West Bromwich)
Kjetil Knutsen (Bodö/Glimt)
Eric Roy (Brest)
Vincenzo Italiano (Fiorentina)
Hein Vanhaezebrouck (Gent)
Jindrich Tripsovsky (Slavia Prague)

Feel free to add to the list or tell me if someone snuck off and found himself a new job or something.
The Swansea manager is (ex Brighton reserve coach) Luke Williams?
 




abc

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Jan 6, 2007
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You really think Chelsea and Manu U, looking to appoint a new manager, sought out the Ipswich manager for a day of silly buggers, just to stop him going joining us?

And sometimes I wonder how anyone can be so mad as to think voting for Sunk and co this July would be a really good idea.

:shootself

You just can’t help making a political comment at every opportunity can you? I will be relieved for you when the GE is over and you can relax!😂
 






Han Solo

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The Swansea manager is (ex Brighton reserve coach) Luke Williams?
Oh yeah, sorry - thats the name. Fixing it.

He had a rough start with the results (because their squad is a really poor one) but the football instantly improved and by the end of the season they looked strong, dominating games and creating lots of chances.

Swansea possession in their final 10 games:
Watford 63%
Bristol City 72%
Cardiff 55%
Sheffield Wed 68%
QPR 68%
Middlesbrough 58%
Stoke 50%
Rotheram 70%
Huddersfield 67%
Norwich 58%
Millwall 67%

Didn't know he was ex-Brighton but makes him even more interesting.
 


Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
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Tactically, think Dyche, Moyles, Hodgson etc.

“Oftentimes, Brest will seek to go direct and attempt to win a second ball and push forward, lumping it forward to their strikers.”

 






tigertim68

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Sep 3, 2012
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Did a quick check on Wikipedia (apologies for any inaccuracies) to see each unemployed candidate's win % at the club listed.

van Nistelrooy, van Bronckhorst and Pascal Jansen all looks to have something about them.

Roberto De Zerbi (Brighton) 42.7% win rate
Graham Potter (Brighton) 31.1%


Gerhard Struber (last club RB Salzburg) 58.82%
Mark van Bommel (Antwerp) 51.40%
Gio van Bronckhorst (Rangers) 61.76%
Stefano Pioli (Milan) 54.17%
Pascal Jansen (AZ) 58.02%
Javi Gracia (Leeds) 25%
Quique Setién (Villarreal) 46.15%
Bruno Genesio (Rennes) 51.5%
Niko Kovac (Wolfsburg) 34.85%
Will Still (Reims) 38.46%
Scott Parker (Club Brugge) 16.67%
Rafa Benitez (Celta Vigo) 27.3%
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (Manchester United) 54.17%
Laurent Blanc (Lyon) 45.95%
Ruud van Nistelrooy (PSV) 64.71%
Liam Rosenior (Hull) 34.63%
Marcelo Gallardo (Saudi somewhere) 45.45%
Michael Beale (Sunderland) 33.33%
Philip Cocu (Vitesse) 29.27%
Wouter Vrancken (Genk) ?
Would not take any notice of Van Bronckhorst numbets only play one decent team a year
 


GloryDays

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Jul 5, 2011
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Leyton, E10.
I don't think those numbers mean anything on their own.

Van Bronkhorst getting 62% at Ranger strikes me as somebody achieving the minimum that would be expected of them. Similarly Solskjaer's 54% at Man U.
Indeed. Tbh expectation in the SPL should be winning every game apart from Celtic, where a win is not guaranteed.

So ~60% is low. I suppose if this takes European games in to consideration too, that would bring the average down.
 






Han Solo

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Tactically, think Dyche, Moyles, Hodgson etc.

“Oftentimes, Brest will seek to go direct and attempt to win a second ball and push forward, lumping it forward to their strikers.”

They play direct football against better teams and dominant football against worse teams. They are top 5 in Ligue 1 both in terms of avg possession and long balls.
 


Guinness Boy

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Indeed. Tbh expectation in the SPL should be winning every game apart from Celtic, where a win is not guaranteed.

So ~60% is low. I suppose if this takes European games in to consideration too, that would bring the average down.
Beale’s win % at Rangers is actually higher but their fans absolutely hated him.

He then lasted a whole 12 games at Sunderland, winning just 4 of them.
 






Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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Indeed. Tbh expectation in the SPL should be winning every game apart from Celtic, where a win is not guaranteed.

So ~60% is low. I suppose if this takes European games in to consideration too, that would bring the average down.
Yup. They also lost a number of zero importance games in the league when the title chance was gone while they at the same time made it to the Europa League final.
 


Hugo Rune

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They play direct football against better teams and dominant football against worse teams. They are top 5 in Ligue 1 both in terms of avg possession and long balls.
I stand corrected.

At 54%, Brest actually had 1% more possession than McKenna’s Ipswich last season as an average over all games.

If he can combine possession and then directness in a game (which RDZ rarely did) like McKenna, I guess I’m in.

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DJ NOBO

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I’m increasingly thinking a lo-fi option like Parker or Cooper is most likely.
 








Guinness Boy

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I stand corrected.

At 54%, Brest actually had 1% more possession than McKenna’s Ipswich last season as an average over all games.

If he can combine possession and then directness in a game (which RDZ rarely did) like McKenna, I guess I’m in.

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The idea of you googling “Brest Characteristics” is tremendous 😀
 


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