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halbpro

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Jan 25, 2012
2,902
Brighton
Yes, confirmed now.

6,951 at the Amex back in October for the visit of Spurs, so almost 1/3rd down on that.

Despite South Today's enthusiasm on the news, they were never likely to break the attendance record with an evening game.

Lessons to be learned.
Obviously this means nothing, but it did feel a lot busier than the Spurs game did.
 


Milano

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Aug 15, 2012
4,037
Sussex but not by the sea
Just listened to the latest BHA podcast, very interesting re women stadium. It seems most of the changes are in the grand scheme quite minor. Surely it must be a lot cheaper to modify the Amex than spend tens of millions on a purpose built stadium?
However the one point that is crucial is that right now the Amex is just too big. So I guess a new stadium does make sense. I’d like to know where the money is coming from though and that it won’t negatively affect the mens team.
If they do build this stadium, then would it make sense to build it with a future eye on being able to expand the capacity to be larger than the Amex?
 


Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
24,815
GOSBTS
I’d like to know where the money is coming from though and that it won’t negatively affect the mens team.
Probably the same place it came from when the Albion was losing money every season under Bloom until the last couple of seasons
 


halbpro

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Jan 25, 2012
2,902
Brighton
Just listened to the latest BHA podcast, very interesting re women stadium. It seems most of the changes are in the grand scheme quite minor. Surely it must be a lot cheaper to modify the Amex than spend tens of millions on a purpose built stadium?
However the one point that is crucial is that right now the Amex is just too big. So I guess a new stadium does make sense. I’d like to know where the money is coming from though and that it won’t negatively affect the mens team.
If they do build this stadium, then would it make sense to build it with a future eye on being able to expand the capacity to be larger than the Amex?
The main issue is, yes, the Amex is just too big and they'd actually like to move to the Amex if crowds grow to justify it. I think if they could regularly fill the lower tier then playing at the Amex is justified.

As for expanding the potential new stadium, Barber has actually talked about going the other way. Having a modular stadium whose capacity could be reduced if the women's side moved to the Amex on a permanent basis. This would allow the stadium to be used for other things (say U-21s or being a community stadium that's genuinely used by the community) and lower the general upkeep cost. I believe he even talked about the potential of any modules potentially being able to be reused for other clubs, I guess similar to the shipping container stadium used at the last World Cup
 




dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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The main issue is, yes, the Amex is just too big and they'd actually like to move to the Amex if crowds grow to justify it. I think if they could regularly fill the lower tier then playing at the Amex is justified.

As for expanding the potential new stadium, Barber has actually talked about going the other way. Having a modular stadium whose capacity could be reduced if the women's side moved to the Amex on a permanent basis. This would allow the stadium to be used for other things (say U-21s or being a community stadium that's genuinely used by the community) and lower the general upkeep cost. I believe he even talked about the potential of any modules potentially being able to be reused for other clubs, I guess similar to the shipping container stadium used at the last World Cup
Stadium 974……currently standing empty and unused…..like a few of the others built for the World Cup
 


philgull25

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Jul 29, 2005
1,106
Polegate
Probably the same place it came from when the Albion was losing money every season under Bloom until the last couple of seasons
Exactly, the money is coming from
Tony Bloom. The latest club accounts show negative reserves of £27.7m, with a debt owed to TB of £373m… sorry for reiterating this but both figure are important.

The men’s team are where they are because of his investment. Full Stop.

If he wants to put more money into the women’s team and for the means team to become self sufficient (which given its turnover is now over £200m per year, is quite reasonable), that’s his decision.

Putting money into the women’s team is an investment with a view to being part of a WSL that in 10-years time will likely have significantly higher broadcast revenue deals. Frankly, it would be irresponsible not to invest disproportionately in the women and girls side of things given the circumstances.
 






zeetha

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Apr 11, 2011
1,374
Held on for a draw - thank goodness for Terland again! Some of our decision making and passing accuracy leaves a lot to be desired...
 


Milano

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Aug 15, 2012
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Sussex but not by the sea
Exactly, the money is coming from
Tony Bloom. The latest club accounts show negative reserves of £27.7m, with a debt owed to TB of £373m… sorry for reiterating this but both figure are important.

The men’s team are where they are because of his investment. Full Stop.

If he wants to put more money into the women’s team and for the means team to become self sufficient (which given its turnover is now over £200m per year, is quite reasonable), that’s his decision.

Putting money into the women’s team is an investment with a view to being part of a WSL that in 10-years time will likely have significantly higher broadcast revenue deals. Frankly, it would be irresponsible not to invest disproportionately in the women and girls side of things given the circumstances.
What a load of absolute rot. The men’s team are where they are today because of Tony’s vision and THE FANS buying into it big time. Those would be fans of Brighton’s men’s team.

BHA is the men’s team, the women’s team is a complete sideshow. As chairman of OUR football club his first priority is to the men’s team. The idea that the men’s team subsidises the women’s at the detriment of the men’s team would be a complete breach of his position.

As for your complete speculation of 10 years time, how do you know it’s not peaked already? Take the cheap tickets away and then let’s see what attendance we get.
 


halbpro

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Jan 25, 2012
2,902
Brighton
Frustrating to lead that long only to get the draw. Other results have set up the Villa game on Saturday as absolutely huge.

In news from the Women’s Championship, Palace finish the season as champions and will be in the WSL next season. Be interesting to see what’s done with segregation etc… in the league games with us
 




brighton_dave

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Apr 13, 2016
497
What a load of absolute rot. The men’s team are where they are today because of Tony’s vision and THE FANS buying into it big time. Those would be fans of Brighton’s men’s team.

BHA is the men’s team, the women’s team is a complete sideshow. As chairman of OUR football club his first priority is to the men’s team. The idea that the men’s team subsidises the women’s at the detriment of the men’s team would be a complete breach of his position.

As for your complete speculation of 10 years time, how do you know it’s not peaked already? Take the cheap tickets away and then let’s see what attendance we get.
My goodness you have some lady hate in you, let's take their right to vote back too. What's causing you to hate on the women's team so much?!
 


brighton_dave

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Apr 13, 2016
497
Frustrating to lead that long only to get the draw. Other results have set up the Villa game on Saturday as absolutely huge.

In news from the Women’s Championship, Palace finish the season as champions and will be in the WSL next season. Be interesting to see what’s done with segregation etc… in the league games with us
I really do hope it's not an excuse for some of the 'hard nuts' to come and cause trouble at what is very much a family friendly environment.
 


hart's shirt

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Jul 8, 2003
11,162
Kitbag in Dubai
I really do hope it's not an excuse for some of the 'hard nuts' to come and cause trouble at what is very much a family friendly environment.
Highly improbable.

To date, there's never been any issues in the women's game with derby fixtures.

With the fanbase primarily consisting of families and women, it's not going to happen.

It was more likely to kick off at a REMF game than with Albion v Palace women. :)
 




brighton_dave

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Apr 13, 2016
497
Highly improbable.

To date, there's never been any issues in the women's game with derby fixtures.

With the fanbase primarily consisting of families and women, it's not going to happen.

It was more likely to kick off at a REMF game than with Albion v Palace women. :)
I was pretty certain the REMF referred to the fans game, but goodled it to make sure. I wasn't quite expecting the below. 🤣

REMF is formed within English, as an acronym. Etymons: English rear echelon mother-fucker.
 


Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
13,556
Central Borneo / the Lizard
What a load of absolute rot. The men’s team are where they are today because of Tony’s vision and THE FANS buying into it big time. Those would be fans of Brighton’s men’s team.

BHA is the men’s team, the women’s team is a complete sideshow. As chairman of OUR football club his first priority is to the men’s team. The idea that the men’s team subsidises the women’s at the detriment of the men’s team would be a complete breach of his position.

As for your complete speculation of 10 years time, how do you know it’s not peaked already? Take the cheap tickets away and then let’s see what attendance we get.
Jeez take a step back, please.

We're Brighton and Hove Albion football club. We have youth teams, walking football teams, wheelchair teams, blind teams, a womens team and a mens team. And we invest a lot into local community projects. A sports club is for everyone.
 


Super Steve Earle

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Feb 23, 2009
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North of Brighton
I was pretty certain the REMF referred to the fans game, but goodled it to make sure. I wasn't quite expecting the below. 🤣

REMF is formed within English, as an acronym. Etymons: English rear echelon mother-fucker.
Should have stuck with Google. goodle is just a cheap knockoff search engine.
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
56,054
Burgess Hill
What a load of absolute rot. The men’s team are where they are today because of Tony’s vision and THE FANS buying into it big time. Those would be fans of Brighton’s men’s team.

BHA is the men’s team, the women’s team is a complete sideshow. As chairman of OUR football club his first priority is to the men’s team. The idea that the men’s team subsidises the women’s at the detriment of the men’s team would be a complete breach of his position.

As for your complete speculation of 10 years time, how do you know it’s not peaked already? Take the cheap tickets away and then let’s see what attendance we get.
Don’t think it’s up to you to determine someone else’s priorities or spend someone else’s money.
 






hart's shirt

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
11,162
Kitbag in Dubai
Palace fans were singing the Dunk ‘rape’ song at one of their games I went to
As unsavoury as that isolated incident was, no arrests though. And no violence. No serious comparisons here.

Women's tennis has had more stadium incidents than women's football since the 1993 Seles stabbing with male coaches and domineering fathers.

It's not hard to see why there isn't any off-pitch aggro in the women's game.

1. Far fewer people attending.
2. A tiny number of away fans.
2. Men don't generally attend, other than fathers with their children.
 


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