Actually saying you wouldn't mind Murray bk, are u serious!?

[sir albion]

What the fuc-k are most of you on?
Murray is nowhere near good enough for the top end of the chanpionship,such a deluded bunch who look back to league 1 days.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

It's not a case of cutting him a lot of slack. He was a player who I admired a lot, during his 3 seasons with us he matured, developed new skills, was a superb first line of defence and scored some fantastic goals.

Fans are fickle, you only have to look at the abuse heaped at Barnes to see that, so I don't expect 'loyalty' from players. Elliott Bennett stuck in a transfer request EIGHT WEEKS after signing a new contract, yet if we saw him in the street we would ask for a photo, an autograph, and probably give him a blowjob if it meant him coming back to the Albion.

Murray didn't sign for Palace because of any affection for them or slight to us, he did it for the same reasons that you or I would do if another company offered us a £300,000 signing on fee.

All fair points - I always thought him a quality player even when other people thought he was shit (or not trying). What changes everything is that it was Palace. Had he gone to Millwall or Charlton say - it would be "thanks for the memories and best of British old son" and a big cheer next time he visited the Amex.

It would have been the same if Bennett had gone there. Bennett had more sense (as well as better options). Had Murray any respect for the Albion faithful he would have have taken time to understand the implications of the move.

Also in business if you go to your arch-rivals - don't expect to be thought of in glowing terms by your old company.

 

[stss30]

Some players appear laconic though. Murray had a lot going on in his private life. Remember that he stuck in three transfer requests (two in the first six months, partly for home problems and part due to the Wilkins factor). If anyone has been through similar issues it is very difficult to focus on your job. He then met someone and became happier.

I know many like to think different, but he doesn't owe us anything. It's business for them, an emotional relationship for us though, and that is why the resentment and hostility exists.

I don't resent anything, I respect his decision. I just don't think it's worth us resigning him. He's 28 and last season he proved he can't hack the Championship. I'm sure he'll improve this season but I'd rather get a player with more experience or talent (if available obviously).

 

[stss30]

What the fuc-k are most of you on?
Murray is nowhere near good enough for the top end of the chanpionship,such a deluded bunch who look back to league 1 days.

I agree.

 

[El Presidente]

All fair points - I always thought him a quality player even when other people thought he was shit (or not trying). What changes everything is that it was Palace. Had he gone to Millwall or Charlton say - it would be "thanks for the memories and best of British old son" and a big cheer next time he visited the Amex.

It would have been the same if Bennett had gone there. Bennett had more sense (as well as better options). Had Murray any respect for the Albion faithful he would have have taken time to understand the implications of the move.

Also in business if you go to your arch-rivals - don't expect to be thought of in glowing terms by your old company.

I agree entirely about the Palace factor, but I think he showed at the Amex last season that he does have affection for the Albion in the way he behaved after scoring the goal. The Albion could have offered him a better deal, they chose not to.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

I agree entirely about the Palace factor, but I think he showed at the Amex last season that he does have affection for the Albion in the way he behaved after scoring the goal. The Albion could have offered him a better deal, they chose not to.

If he had affection for the Albion he would have ballooned it into the North Stand! - to be fair - that could be what he intended.

 

[Daffy Duck]

If he had affection for the Albion he would have ballooned it into the North Stand! - to be fair - that could be what he intended.

Agree. Bobby did it when we played Wet Sham in the FA Cup. Knocked it wide of the goal and then gave us a cheeky little wink afterwards.

 

[El Presidente]

Agree. Bobby did it when we played Wet Sham in the FA Cup. Knocked it wide of the goal and then gave us a cheeky little wink afterwards.

We were 3-0 down in injury time when it happened with BZ though!

 

[El Presidente]

I know we bang on about loyalty, but we are not loyal to players, we are loyal to the shirt.

If the players are shit we can't wait for them to be shipped out and replaced with someone better.

Therefore to expect loyalty back from someone who has lived all their life 300 miles away is probably unrealistic.

What is disgusting in my view is when someone such as Alan Smith, born and bred in Leeds, and a fan as a kid, joined Manchester United.

 

[drew]

My view on Murray is that he is, when fit, certainly good enough for our team. However, like Robin Van Persie, he had an injury plagued career and finished with an exceptionally good season. I always rated him and was certainly not one of the morons who slated him when his injury prevented him tracking back with Delph for that goal. However, as someone has rightly said, there has to be a certain affinity with fans and the perceived betrayal in the way he left and signed for a club he knew were our bitterest rivals means there is no going back. Footballers are only employees of the club but they do thrive on the adulation of the fans which probably drives them on to perform better. If you get no support from the majority of fans then that will affect your attitude to how you play for a club.

The comparison with Crofts is comical. Again, as others have said, he left to join a club in a higher division and with a bigger professional challenge, at which he was a success. There was no acrimony about him leaving and no suggesting that he was actively seeking to move away from the Albion.

 

[goldstone]

If Gus decided he was the best option for our vacancy for a striker come target-man, then I would be very pleased and support the decision 100%.

I don't care one bit whether he left us to join Palace or Dunfermline. He went for more money and in reality most of us would switch employers if we were offered a pay increase for doing the same job at a different company.

If any of you deny that, then you're being economical with the truth.

Murray was great in the air, with his back to goal, and helping out the defence at corners. We would not have won promotion without his goals and his involvement.

No reason why he can't make an impact in the Championship. Palace may not have played to his strengths.

If he does come back he would get a very warm welcome from me, and I suspect from the majority of Albion fans.