Action should be taken following Kenny Dalglish swearing.......

[NMH]

This is a pretty good example of the bias against Wenger if the guy above me actually believes what hes typing. No other managers would be complaining at the end of a game, lol.

This is as like when so many muppets believed Fabregas accused Ipswich of playing rugby because they saw some headlines, and not the interview.

Don't get me wrong, I get bored of all the moaning managers too and I have a pet hate for Wenger going on about mental strength etc, but to paint Wenger as worse than the rest is kind of funny.

The man IS a twat, not just a french twat - and he's earned his rep.
That with Dalglish is just typical for wenger the TWAT.

He's 'painted' as worse because he IS worse than the rest!
Even ferguson shines compared with Wanger.

There's no conspiracy or ulterior reasoning - he's just a bad sport and disingenuous at all times.

There's also his regard for Lehman which is funny, it is no coincidence that he berates anyone who fairly tries to beat him and get a goal for his team. Lehman goes freakin' SPARE as if it's the greatest injustice ever! Both of them are barmy and not really 'sporting' - but of course an Arsenal fan would be myopic about them both and totally love their deliberate lack of perspective.

 

[sam86]

I thought Kenny then told him to eff off when I saw it live, anyone else notice that?

Yep. Defo had two pops at him

 

[gruntage]

This is a pretty good example of the bias against Wenger if the guy above me actually believes what hes typing. No other managers would be complaining at the end of a game, lol.

This is as like when so many muppets believed Fabregas accused Ipswich of playing rugby because they saw some headlines, and not the interview.

Don't get me wrong, I get bored of all the moaning managers too and I have a pet hate for Wenger going on about mental strength etc, but to paint Wenger as worse than the rest is kind of funny.

I think you misread NMH's post. He didn't say other managers don't whinge at the end of a game. He said other managers wouldn't bitch to the opposition manager. All managers will moan at the 'injustices' against them, even Gus, but the majority of managers however wronged they feel, will shake the other managers hand without bitching to him. It's called being a good sport. Wenger doesn't know the meaning.

 

[Brian Fantana]

I find Dalglish just as unlikeable as Wenger, to be honest.

 

[Scotty Mac]

his constant moans about wanting teams such as stoke to play fairly, and then having a go at dalglish after the game for a decision he had no part in and would even go onto admit was wrong was double standards at its very best

bit harsh to have a go at him for moaning about that particular decision however - any manager would do that after 12 minutes injury time for what does appear to be a soft penalty. gus is, after all, one of the great moaners in the english game about referees when things dont go our way. thankfully, we havent seen it much this season

his hypocrisy though more than deserves to earn the bloke the reputation as being a bit of a twat

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Wenger's such a sore loser its pathetic.
Eboue clearly fouled Lucas so exactly what did he have to complain about.

Can't help but think it's about time Wenger steps down or moves upstairs before he does irrepairable damage to his legacy.

Sounds about right. The first thing any sportsman needs to learn is how to lose, they don't have to like it, but it goes with the territory. Wenger is the worst loser. Don't know what he was complaining about yesterday, the L'pool one was more of a pen than the Arses one, if anything.

 

[Acker79]

I think you misread NMH's post. He didn't say other managers don't whinge at the end of a game. He said other managers wouldn't bitch to the opposition manager. All managers will moan at the 'injustices' against them, even Gus, but the majority of managers however wronged they feel, will shake the other managers hand without bitching to him. It's called being a good sport. Wenger doesn't know the meaning.

According to the sun, possibly even a quote from Dalglish, they did shake hands after the game. I know we didn't see it on the screen, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. If it only counts when the cameras are on them, then the handshake is a very shallow gesture and more indicative of contrived PR than of actual sportsmanship.

It looked to me like Dalglish was celebrating the goal and turned round and found himself face to face with Wenger while celebrating, and Wenger mistook it for goading, and took offence. I imagine when they were in the tunnel it was cleared up, or realised or whatever and then they shook hands.

 

[northernblue]

HAHA it was hilarious to be fair! I like Daglish, good old honesty! Wnger is a bad bad loser but so are all the other managers including Mourhino and Fergie! They are the biggest hypocrites ever! Its embarassing of Wenger though, who is blaming everyone but himself for his teams failures season after season!!!

 

[matthew]

To be fair to Wenger there was 8 minutes added time, the incident for the first penalty happened in the 7th minute of added time so there was 1 minute to play after that penalty (no matter how much of a delay their was). Liverpool's penalty came in the 11th minute of added time.

Also it wasn't a penalty, Eboue and Lucas were both running to the ball, (lucas didn't have the ball) Lucas stopped and blocked Eboue's run meaning if anything it was a free kick to Eboue.

You've got to understand why Wenger gets so pissed off though, something like this seems to happen every other time arsenal play. (Van Persies red card against Barca, Arshavins offside goal against Sunderland, Kocielny's f*** up against Birmingham, the penaties against Newcastle...)

 

[sam86]

96:06 - Arsenal penalty awarded
97:10 - Arsenal penalty scored
98:00 - Liverpool kick off
98:42 - Liverpool freekick edge of box
100:44 - Liverpool freekick taken
100:47 - Liverpool penalty awarded
101:45 - Liverpool penalty scored

Arsenal wasted 64 seconds between the penalty being awarded and taken.
Arsenal wasted 50 seconds celebrating
Arsenal wasted 121 seconds delaying the freekick prior to the penalty
That's almost 4 minutes. 4 minutes + original 8 minutes = 12 minutes.
Time of Liverpool goal 11 minutes 45 seconds.

 

[brightn'ove]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp0RQ9bR5QM

video with subtitles, quite a classic.

 

[Bwian]

To be fair to Wenger there was 8 minutes added time, the incident for the first penalty happened in the 7th minute of added time so there was 1 minute to play after that penalty (no matter how much of a delay their was). Liverpool's penalty came in the 11th minute of added time.

Also it wasn't a penalty, Eboue and Lucas were both running to the ball, (lucas didn't have the ball) Lucas stopped and blocked Eboue's run meaning if anything it was a free kick to Eboue.

You've got to understand why Wenger gets so pissed off though, something like this seems to happen every other time arsenal play. (Van Persies red card against Barca, Arshavins offside goal against Sunderland, Kocielny's f*** up against Birmingham, the penaties against Newcastle...)

Have you been to the Alex Ferguson academy of bullshit?

It was a clear cut penalty-as was the foul inside the box earlier in the game when nothing was given. Eboue pushed Lucas in the back. If that push had been against an Albion player or a ManUre player you'd be bitching like hell if nothing was given.

The time has already be explained so I won't bother going over it for you.

 

[Triggaaar]

Wenger's such a sore loser its pathetic.
Eboue clearly fouled Lucas so exactly what did he have to complain about.

Wender's a f***ing idiot. It wouldn't matter even if it wasn't a pen (which it was), he could hardly blame Kenny.

 

[Triggaaar]

I suppose the difference is that Rooney sought out a camera to swear in whereas the cameras just happened to pick up Kenny doing it. I imagine that is the line the FA will take.

I think the OP was joking, it's nothing like what Rooney did.

So funny people jumping on the Wenger moaning bandwagon again, what did you expect him to do? What does EVERY SINGLE OTHER MANAGER in the premier league do when things go against them.

Every other manager would have just shaken Kenny's hand. You don't only shake hands when you win or you're happy with the ref's decisions.

 

[Triggaaar]

If the boot had been on the other foot, everyone would be saying Wenger is a moaner for telling Dalglish to piss off. I'm certain of that.

You're talking nonsense. There's no way Kenny would have refused to shake hands, and if he had, we'd be having a go at him.

 

[Triggaaar]

To be fair to Wenger there was 8 minutes added time, the incident for the first penalty happened in the 7th minute of added time so there was 1 minute to play after that penalty (no matter how much of a delay their was).

No, they have to allow time for Arsenals goal, which gets added to the total.

You've got to understand why Wenger gets so pissed off though, something like this seems to happen every other time arsenal play. (Van Persies red card against Barca

I don't follow Arsenal, but I saw their games against Barca. That Red was a bad decision, but you seem to have forgotten the 2nd goal Barca scored at the Emirates, that would have put them 2-0 up, but was wrongly given as off-side.

 

[Easy 10]

Dunno why Dalglish was celebrating anyway. Liverpool have all but ensured Man U will overhaul their 18 titles in a couple of weeks now, whilst his team picked up a meaningless point towards their tedious amble to 7th place.

 

[Gritt23]

Dunno why Dalglish was celebrating anyway. Liverpool have all but ensured Man U will overhaul their 18 titles in a couple of weeks now, whilst his team picked up a meaningless point towards their tedious amble to 7th place.

If you had to endure standing 20 feet from Wenger for 2 hours, while he moans, and whinges, I bet you'd celebrate a goal that will seriously piss him off, even if it does see Man Utd pass a record of yours.

I was just impressed at the improvement in Wengers eyesight, as he seemed to have a clear view of the Eboue challenge this time. Albeit he got it wrong, so maybe he didn't see it after all.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I believe the initial exchange was a "piss off", with a bonus "f*** off" as Dalglish walked further away from the camera, if that helps clear things up.

The blame lies entirely with Eboue anyway, what a complete tool. Lucas running away from goal, seconds left, he's going nowhere, and Eboue brainlessly puts his hands on the bloke's back and gives him a nudge. Of course he's going to go down. I can't stand Liverpool but even I can see it was going to be a penalty.

The irritant with Wenger is mainly that he never, ever admits one of his own players is wrong. Even Fergie didn't attempt to defend Paul Scholes's thigh high tackle on the City player at the weekend, whereas Wenger would probably have tried to claim provocation if one of his players did the same. Arsenal have had 102 minutes in that game to score more than one goal, and they couldn't manage it, which suggests rather a lot of mistakes by their players. Wenger perceives a referee to have made ONE mistake in that time (which he didn't) and thus it's entirely the official's fault that Arsenal have failed to win. Again.

 

[Easy 10]

If you had to endure standing 20 feet from Wenger for 2 hours, while he moans, and whinges, I bet you'd celebrate a goal that will seriously piss him off, even if it does see Man Utd pass a record of yours.

I was just impressed at the improvement in Wengers eyesight, as he seemed to have a clear view of the Eboue challenge this time. Albeit he got it wrong, so maybe he didn't see it after all.

Naah, Dalglish wouldn't be overly bothered about seeing Wenger getting pissed off, he just took exception to Wengers reaction to it.

However, I was AMAZED to see so many Liverpool fans leaping around wildly, given that they've just handed the all-important 19th League Title on a plate to their most hated rivals. Well done bindippers - Fergie is about to "knock you off your f***ing perch", but you rescued a point at Arsenal on your march to mid-table. Wooo !