I don't disagree with you in principle but if the West has the military capability to wipe out IS (as they do) I think they should use it. I don't think we can afford to allow the IS to create a new and permanent state that becomes a hotbed for terrorism on a world wide basis.
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A British Aid Worker Beheaded by ISIS
- Thread starter Dick Head
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I don't disagree with you in principle but if the West has the military capability to wipe out IS (as they do) I think they should use it. I don't think we can afford to allow the IS to create a new and permanent state that becomes a hotbed for terrorism on a world wide basis.
sir albion
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They're being trained in numerous countries and live amongst us...Over there is a small tipple of the problem's that are upon us.
Ok then, seeing as some think that it is the Wests fault that there is killing in Iraq (and apparently every other country where the Muslims are killing) then let's pull out completely, any aid workers, government officials etc get them out. Let them fight amongst themselves whilst we tackle the growing problem of Muslim radicals closer to home.
No bleeding hearts though when the slaughtering continues in the Middle East. Good solution? will suit those who never wanted us in the area, and suit those who blamed us for the troubles in these areas.
pastafarian
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its a rather backward form of sharia state punishment i agree,i suspect Cameron and Obama dont get involved because of all the financial dealings going on between our countries.Its left up to amnesty and human rights watch to be the public face of condemnation.
as for NSC i can only imagine someone starting a thread on it would be accused of being a racist within a few posts.
hard to compare what IS is doing with regard to all their beheadings and Saudi capital punishment though
Although the war in Iraq in 2003 was unjust, it wasn't all about economic gain. Western leaders did actually fear the prospect of Iraq developing WMDs, and they believed Iraq could do better without Saddam.
Our government didn't commit genocide in the Middle East. We are not responsible for ISIS.
I think it's sad that you use the death of a good, innocent man, to push your extreme views.
You are mistaken - PKK Kurds are made up of Muslims, Jews, Christians, followers of Yazidiz and a handful of other religions I can't remember off the top of my head. I don't condone what they have done but you linking their actions to a religion is utterly wrong.
Still awaiting some figures from you to back up your ascertain that it's more than a very small percentage of Muslims causing the trouble ? Or can't you back that statement up ?
You may be right and you're in 'good' company when voicing that opinion - the Pope has said we're at the start of WWIII. Not that I tend to listen to what the old duffer has to say normally.
HawkTheSeagull
New member
He isnt using it to push anything, and why would he ?
If/When we go in - the sole aim will be to rid the world of these murderers, thats it. Its a whole new ball game compared to 2003.
I suspect, if it wasn't for the oil they sell us and the arms we sell them, Saudi would be deemed a terrorist state for its funding of many terrorist organisations and inhumane form of government. Strange how blind eyes can become.
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Presumably he'll be condemning those that committed the crime - which is fairly understandable and would probably be supported by his family. You're using it against governments that have nothing to do with ISIS and their actions.
portslade seagull
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I think the west could see repercussions the silly thing is the police/secret service probably know who the likely perpetrators are but seem not to do anything
You're ignoring the fact that this time ( unlike Iraq ) the West has the backing of many prominent Arab / Middle East countries including Iran ( who won't join the alliance but will provide assistance to the cause ).
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
So we should support a Despot?
This.
Albion Dan
Banned
And Jackanory is based on true events. Western Leaders feared Iraq really had WMDs? I thought we'd all pretty much found out that was complete and utter tosh about a decade ago!
The West is responsible for ISIS as we funded and armed them via the 2 US States of Saudi and Qatar in the aim of toppling Assad in Syria! We are now seeing despicable acts being carried out by the army we created against innocent people which is the fastest way to get support to create the catalyst for the biggest military operation since the launch of Iraq v Blair. Lots of other parties will get written into this script yet (Israel for one, probably China and Russia too) and lots of people will get very rich again.
Dunno, what's the difference between a beheading and a beheading?
Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
I suppose it is bit like the difference between our penal system and a group of blokes picking people randomly up off the street and locking them up.
What we found out was tosh was that the WMDs ever existed. We also found out that our governments were too keen to believe the inside information that said they existed. But they did believe they existed.
Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
I do not believe they did. If they did - they were fools - because the experts told them otherwise.