[Albion] 25 Man Squad - Summer 2022 Edition

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

I think they had to give everyone still at the club a shirt. I imagine up to half a dozen will be gone by September including Andone and Maupay.

They don’t have to give everyone a squad number. Chelsea have had some press this past week for not giving Billy Gilmour, Ross Barkley and others squads numbers despite the fact they haven’t yet secured moves away.

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/ro...UbNtWbrPKmmZfHh2BHhYOuL5nTzNSIGifvcfS2Y7JOsnQ

 

[Hugo Rune]

Indeed.

Clarke, Scherpen and Andone are almost certainly going somewhere.

Then there has to be a chance - although equally not - of loans for 27-29 : Kozlowski, Ferguson, van Hecke.

And then there is the Maupay question - the Italian deal may not be happening but it seems a move is not totally out of the question.

I believe that players in the U23 game against Palace tonight might well find themselves on loan soon:

Offiah
Clarke
Enciso
Kozlowski
Ferguson

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

10. Clarke ( HGP ) (2023)

Been confirmed by Naylor we have a years option on Clarke.

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[Blue Valkyrie]

Scherpen to Vitesse Arnhem on loan.

Window closes: Sept 1st 11pm.
u21s: Players born on or after 1 January 2001.
HGP - Home Grown Player -see below. Each squad contains no more than 17 players who do not fulfil the "HGP Player" (HGP) criteria. The rest of the squad, up to a total of 25 players, must be "HGP".

1. Sanchez ( HGP ) (2025)
2. Steele ( HGP ) (2023)
3. McGill (HGP) (2023)
4. Lamptey (HGP) (2025)
5. March ( HGP ) (2024 + option)
6. Veltman (2023 + option)
7. Webster ( HGP ) ( 2026)
8. Dunk ( HGP ) (2025)
U21. Colwill
9. Clarke ( HGP ) (2023 + option)
10. van Hecke (2023)
11. Mwepu (2025)
U21. Caicedo ( 2025)
U21. Kozlowski ( 2026)
12. Moder (2025)
13. Alzate ( HGP ) (2024)
14. Lallana ( HGP ) (2023)
15. Groß (2024)
16. Mac Allister (2023)
U21. Sarmiento (2026)
17. Trossard (2023 + option)
18. Mitoma (2025)
U21. Enciso (2026)
19. Maupay (2023)
20. Welbeck ( HGP ) (2023)
21. Undav (2026)
22. Andone (2023)
U21. Ferguson

Loans out ( maximum 8 to overseas clubs ): Adingra (RUSG), Rushworth (2025/Lincoln), Roberts(2023?/Derby), Sima (2025/Angers), Connolly (2024/Venezia), Richards (2024/QPR), Khadra (2023?/Sheffield Utd), Jenks (Crawley Town), Leonard (Northampton Town), Weir (Morecambe), Zeqiri (2024/FC Basel), Karbownik (Fortuna Dusseldorf), Duffy (2023/Fulham), Scherpen (2025/Vitesse Arnhem)
Players bought this window: Enciso (2026), Adingra (2026), Colwill (LOAN)
Players sold this window Bissouma ( Spurs ), Cochrane ( Hearts ), Østigård ( Napoli ), Cucurella ( Chelsea )

HGP - A "Home-Grown Player" means a player who, irrespective of nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons, or 36 months, before his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).

 

[Papa Lazarou]

HGP - Home Grown Player -see below. Each squad contains no more than 17 players who do not fulfil the "HGP Player" (HGP) criteria. The rest of the squad, up to a total of

HGP - A "Home-Grown Player" means a player who, irrespective of nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons, or 36 months, before his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).

One question. Does the limit on Non-HGP players only apply to the senior players, or would our U21s be included in the calculation also?

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

One question. Does the limit on Non-HGP players only apply to the senior players, or would our U21s be included in the calculation also?

U21s are excluded when counting HGP numbers.

 

[Machiavelli]

Scherpen to Vitesse Arnhem on loan.

Window closes: Sept 1st 11pm.
u21s: Players born on or after 1 January 2001.
HGP - Home Grown Player -see below. Each squad contains no more than 17 players who do not fulfil the "HGP Player" (HGP) criteria. The rest of the squad, up to a total of 25 players, must be "HGP".

1. Sanchez ( HGP ) (2025)
2. Steele ( HGP ) (2023)
3. McGill (HGP) (2023)
4. Lamptey (HGP) (2025)
5. March ( HGP ) (2024 + option)
6. Veltman (2023 + option)
7. Webster ( HGP ) ( 2026)
8. Dunk ( HGP ) (2025)
U21. Colwill
9. Clarke ( HGP ) (2023 + option)
10. van Hecke (2023)
11. Mwepu (2025)
U21. Caicedo ( 2025)
U21. Kozlowski ( 2026)
12. Moder (2025)
13. Alzate ( HGP ) (2024)
14. Lallana ( HGP ) (2023)
15. Groß (2024)
16. Mac Allister (2023)
U21. Sarmiento (2026)
17. Trossard (2023 + option)
18. Mitoma (2025)
U21. Enciso (2026)
19. Maupay (2023)
20. Welbeck ( HGP ) (2023 + maybe longer)
21. Undav (2026)
22. Andone (2023)
U21. Ferguson

Loans out ( maximum 8 to overseas clubs ): Adingra (RUSG), Rushworth (2025/Lincoln), Roberts(2023?/Derby), Sima (2025/Angers), Connolly (2024/Venezia), Richards (2024/QPR), Khadra (2023?/Sheffield Utd), Jenks (Crawley Town), Leonard (Northampton Town), Weir (Morecambe), Zeqiri (2024/FC Basel), Karbownik (Fortuna Dusseldorf), Duffy (2023/Fulham), Scherpen (2025/Vitesse Arnhem)
Players bought this window: Enciso (2026), Adingra (2026), Colwill (LOAN)
Players sold this window Bissouma ( Spurs ), Cochrane ( Hearts ), Østigård ( Napoli ), Cucurella ( Chelsea )

HGP - A "Home-Grown Player" means a player who, irrespective of nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons, or 36 months, before his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).

Right there are now 22 over21s listed there. Of those, we can probably expect two or three to go -- Clarke (or, less likely, Van Hecke), Andone and Maupay. Moder is injured until the new year. That'd leave 18 over21s. There are five u21s there, with Kozlowski potentially another. That's looking like 23/24 fit players. If that's the case, we probably need two incoming. Estupinan and one more attacking player?

 

[Papa Lazarou]

U21s are excluded when counting HGP numbers.

Thanks, so our Non-HGP players are:


1. Veltman (2023 + option)
2. van Hecke (2023)
3. Mwepu (2025)
4. Moder (2025)
5. Groß (2024)
6. Mac Allister (2023)
7. Trossard (2023 + option)
8. Mitoma (2025)
9. Maupay (2023)
10. Undav (2026)
11. Andone (2023)

Which matches the number quoted in the Athletic article.

We're doing pretty well compared to many other EPL teams.

 

[b.w.2.]

Right there are now 22 over21s listed there. Of those, we can probably expect two or three to go -- Clarke (or, less likely, Van Hecke), Andone and Maupay. Moder is injured until the new year. That'd leave 18 over21s. There are five u21s there, with Kozlowski potentially another. That's looking like 23/24 fit players. If that's the case, we probably need two incoming. Estupinan and one more attacking player?

Agreed


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[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

Right there are now 22 over21s listed there. Of those, we can probably expect two or three to go -- Clarke (or, less likely, Van Hecke), Andone and Maupay. Moder is injured until the new year. That'd leave 18 over21s. There are five u21s there, with Kozlowski potentially another. That's looking like 23/24 fit players. If that's the case, we probably need two incoming. Estupinan and one more attacking player?

I wouldn't be so sure, obviously Estupinan looks like he's signing and we've mentioned we are looking for a backup to Welbeck but I don't think the club are going to be too annoyed if that backup doesn't happen in this window.

We only named a 20 man squad after the January window closed last season, it was effectively a 19 man squad because it included Billy Arce who we released about a month later. Even if we do move on Maupay, Andone and one of Clarke or JPvH we will still have roughly similar numbers, which is where the club have said they want to be squad size wise.

From the U21's who don't need to be named we've got Caicedo who will be a starter, Colwill and Sarmiento who will regularly be part of the PL match day squad with Enciso and Ferguson knocking on the door, and that's still not counting Kozlowski who could also find himself given a chance if his injury prevents a loan move.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Pervis Estupinan signs !

Window closes: Sept 1st 11pm.
u21s: Players born on or after 1 January 2001.
HGP - Home Grown Player -see below. Each squad contains no more than 17 players who do not fulfil the "HGP Player" (HGP) criteria. The rest of the squad, up to a total of 25 players, must be "HGP".

1. Sanchez ( HGP ) (2025)
2. Steele ( HGP ) (2023)
3. McGill (HGP) (2023)
4. Lamptey (HGP) (2025)
5. Estupinan (2027)
6. March ( HGP ) (2024 + option)
7. Veltman (2023 + option)
8. Webster ( HGP ) ( 2026)
9. Dunk ( HGP ) (2025)
U21. Colwill
10. Clarke ( HGP ) (2023 + option)
11. van Hecke (2023)
12. Mwepu (2025)
U21. Caicedo ( 2025)
U21. Kozlowski ( 2026)
13. Moder (2025)
14. Alzate ( HGP ) (2024)
15. Lallana ( HGP ) (2023)
16. Groß (2024)
17. Mac Allister (2023)
U21. Sarmiento (2026)
18. Trossard (2023 + option)
19. Mitoma (2025)
U21. Enciso (2026)
20. Maupay (2023)
21. Welbeck ( HGP ) (2024)
22. Undav (2026)
23. Andone (2023)
U21. Ferguson

Loans out ( maximum 8 to overseas clubs ): Adingra (RUSG), Rushworth (2025/Lincoln), Roberts(2023?/Derby), Sima (2025/Angers), Connolly (2024/Venezia), Richards (2024/QPR), Khadra (2023?/Sheffield Utd), Jenks (Crawley Town), Leonard (Northampton Town), Weir (Morecambe), Zeqiri (2024/FC Basel), Karbownik (Fortuna Dusseldorf), Duffy (2023/Fulham), Scherpen (2025/Vitesse Arnhem)
Players bought this window: Enciso (2026), Adingra (2026), Colwill (LOAN), Estupinan (2027)
Players sold this window Bissouma ( Spurs ), Cochrane ( Hearts ), Østigård ( Napoli ), Cucurella ( Chelsea )

HGP - A "Home-Grown Player" means a player who, irrespective of nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons, or 36 months, before his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).

 

[um bongo molongo]

So what do we reckon still to do?
A few outs:
- Maupay probably
- Clarke (loan or perm)
- Andone (please someone take him)
- loan for Koslowski maybe?

In:
- the elusive fast striker - the ‘second Welbeck’ per Potter’s interview seemed to suggest this might be an area we’re looking at. As close as Potter will ever come to saying he needs a player. (Would love Iheanacho personally).

- I wonder if we’re in for a DM. If Caicedo gets injured we’re a bit screwed as none of the other options have his athleticism. And Potter does like to play a lot of CMs in some games. It does seem we’ve genuinely looked at a few, which suggests that’s a position we’re looking at. Liked the look of Camara but that ship has sailed.

 

[Hugo Rune]

So what do we reckon still to do?
A few outs:
- Maupay probably
- Clarke (loan or perm)
- Andone (please someone take him)
- loan for Koslowski maybe?

In:
- the elusive fast striker - the ‘second Welbeck’ per Potter’s interview seemed to suggest this might be an area we’re looking at. As close as Potter will ever come to saying he needs a player. (Would love Iheanacho personally).

- I wonder if we’re in for a DM. If Caicedo gets injured we’re a bit screwed as none of the other options have his athleticism. And Potter does like to play a lot of CMs in some games. It does seem we’ve genuinely looked at a few, which suggests that’s a position we’re looking at. Liked the look of Camara but that ship has sailed.

Yes. I think we need two more in as you describe and I think we’re going to get them.

I also think you are right on the departure list too but we might also see Ferguson and Enciso go out on loan (as well as some more U23s), especially if that elusive striker is purchased.

 

[brighton_tom]

So what do we reckon still to do?
A few outs:
- Maupay probably
- Clarke (loan or perm)
- Andone (please someone take him)
- loan for Koslowski maybe?

In:
- the elusive fast striker - the ‘second Welbeck’ per Potter’s interview seemed to suggest this might be an area we’re looking at. As close as Potter will ever come to saying he needs a player. (Would love Iheanacho personally).

- I wonder if we’re in for a DM. If Caicedo gets injured we’re a bit screwed as none of the other options have his athleticism. And Potter does like to play a lot of CMs in some games. It does seem we’ve genuinely looked at a few, which suggests that’s a position we’re looking at. Liked the look of Camara but that ship has sailed.

A new striker and a defensive mid and we'd really be in business this season! Quality and options all over the pitch.

I'd also like to see us bring in an experienced keeper for a year as Sanchez back up, dont really fancy Steele playing Prem games if we had injuries/suspensions, but that might be unlikely.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Colwill and Estupinan weren't deals we were planning on doing this summer and only happened as a result of Cucurella's departure.


There must have been other deals planned which are still ticking along - certainly a midfielder, and apparently a Welbeck clone.


I actually think we are OK now for next season, even if Maupay goes.

But that is just an "OK". Let's aim for better.

 

[chaileyjem]

Naylor article this morning arguing that
Clarke, Andone, and Koslowski are the three remaining high profile exits/loans this summer. (I'm sure there also be other non first team squad loans - several of last years u23 squad are likely to be headed to the EFL) - assuming that Maupay exit is now a given with what looks like Fulham leading the race there.
https://theathletic.com/3512627/2022/08/19/brighton-transfers-clarke-andone/

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Naylor reckons "more outs than ins" with 4 outs suggested - Maupay, Andone, Clarke and Kozlowski.

So that means 0-3 incoming.

I am convinced Cifuentes will join - and he will be the advanced Caicedo replacement who may leave after the World Cup.

We also may get a Welbeck clone.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Naylor article this morning arguing that
Clarke, Andone, and Koslowski are the three remaining high profile exits/loans this summer. (I'm sure there also be other non first team squad loans - several of last years u23 squad are likely to be headed to the EFL) - assuming that Maupay exit is now a given with what looks like Fulham leading the race there.
https://theathletic.com/3512627/2022/08/19/brighton-transfers-clarke-andone/

I think there could be 3 more also depending on the squad situation at the end of next week. Maupay sale and Enciso plus Ferguson loan. If we’ve not replaced Maupay the teens will stay though.

 

[GT49er]

Naylor article this morning arguing that
Clarke, Andone, and Koslowski are the three remaining high profile exits/loans this summer. (I'm sure there also be other non first team squad loans - several of last years u23 squad are likely to be headed to the EFL) - assuming that Maupay exit is now a given with what looks like Fulham leading the race there.
https://theathletic.com/3512627/2022/08/19/brighton-transfers-clarke-andone/

A bit sad about Clarke - couldn't have done much more than POTS in 2 out of 3 seasons in the Championship. I don't know how much we got in loan fees for him - or how much of his wages Derby and WBA paid - but I don't think many Championship clubs can afford to match or better the £3M we paid for him.

Hope we find a good home for him.

 

[Perkino]

I think we are now comfortable with our squad and don't need to sign anymore players. I think our most likely signings in order will be a DM(add to numbers), ST(competition) & LB (future prospect)