[Albion] 2025 January Transfer Window OPEN - incoming/outgoing

[JBizzle]

Because I'm not entirely sure our strategy is trying to build a workable team.

What do you mean by "workable"? I'd argue that we're a decent Premier League team having a solid season, with a mix of some superb results, some middling ones, and some poor ones, and one that still has potential to be a really good season. Southampton don't have a "workable" team, in my eyes. We sure as heck ain't that

 

[Zeberdi]

Yes but you said "it would not be very good business on TBs part, to let a really good defender go on a Bosman"

You didn't suggest it was anything to do with Lamptey wanting to stay.


Edit: Bozza has typed out what I can't be arsed to type myself.

Yes because it wouldn’t be very good business - and I didn’t say we could stop it either but I suspect we will try and negotiate an extension with increased benefits to stop it from happening if we want him to stay. It goes without saying that if an extension was agreed, it was because the player wants to stay.

At the moment we simply don’t know anything - other than we are short on defenders and selling Lamptey now (in this window) won’t be an ideal short term squad solution even though it would get the club a fee.

 

[Simster]

Yes because it wouldn’t be very good business - and I didn’t say we could stop it either but I suspect we will try and negotiate an extension with increased benefits to stop it from happening if we want him to stay. It goes without saying that if an extension was agreed, it was because the player wants to stay.

This is what you said:

As for the summer, I suspect we will get him to sign some sort of extension before letting him go in the summer - it would not be very good business on TBs part, to let a really good defender go on a Bosman.

As has been said before, we won't "get him to sign" anything if he doesn't want to sign. At this point it is out of our hands.

 

[jackalbion]

What do you mean by "workable"? I'd argue that we're a decent Premier League team having a solid season, with a mix of some superb results, some middling ones, and some poor ones, and one that still has potential to be a really good season. Southampton don't have a "workable" team, in my eyes. We sure as heck ain't that

Selling a defender which we're short on and loaning out one of our only two out and out strikers for unknown reasons, is like I've said previously not building a better squad for FH to challenge the establishment.

 

[Zeberdi]

This is what you said:

As for the summer, I suspect we will get him to sign some sort of extension before letting him go in the summer - it would not be very good business on TBs part, to let a really good defender go on a Bosman.

As has been said before, we won't "get him to sign" anything if he doesn't want to sign. At this point it is out of our hands.

Yes, apologies, typing too quickly and trying to respond to several different points at the same time -

I should have said (and meant) I suspect we will try and get him to sign some sort of extension before letting him (or any player ) go in the summer on a free because it would not be very good business on TBs part to let a really good defender go on a Bosman’

I said “I suspect we ‘will’ “ as a statement of faith that I think the Club will succeed in getting him to sign an extension rather than letting him go on a free - of course it depends on if they want him to stay - (which I think they do) and if Lamptey will agree to any new terms.

But can see how what I wrote can be read very differently from what I meant

My point stands though - there’s also a risk to players running down their contract. With a player like Lamptey who is not a footballing superstar and is injury prone it’s more of a risk. If he has a bad injury a few months before he’s out of contract what happens then? Signing an extension guarantees him security should he sustain another significant injury, which may convince him to stay.

 

[Zeberdi]

Because I'm not entirely sure our strategy is trying to build a workable team.

This should cheer you up:

According to Africafoot, writing about El Hadij Malick Diouf who we are apparently close to signing - Hadij Diouf’s Sengalese former teammates and coach have no doubts Brighton is a good destination for developing players:

“He has all the qualities to succeed in this club. Brighton is a stable club where a young person can progress. They have a good project and give young people time to grow. It's really the best place to progress. I'm not afraid of anything for him.”

El Hadij Malick Diouf à Brighton, le choix légitime ? Amdy Faye répond

Selon les informations d'Africafoot, l’arrière gauche sénégalais El Hadji Malick Diouf évoluera sous les couleurs de Brighton pour les cinq

africafoot.com

(Click in search box for translation of article)

 

[Pavilionaire]

This should cheer you up:

According to Africafoot, writing about El Hadij Malick Diouf who we are apparently close to signing - Hadij Diouf’s Sengalese former teammates and coach have no doubts Brighton is a good destination for developing players:

He's just a shit Balotelli.

 

[jcdenton08]

I think that is exactly what we have been doing for some time. And then using that profit to invest in more players who are more likely to enrich the first team squad. I don't think it's one at the expense of the other, but both building towards improving the club and first team squad in order to continue outperforming most expectations

Absolutely this.

 

[Brian Munich]

You clearly have no idea how football transfers work. Why on earth would Lamptey sign a new contract with a few months before it expires, when he's a free agent in the summer?

There are some benefits for the player. Most significantly, it guarantees him another 3-4 years of income regardless of his injury status. I'd imagine that the potential to get a bad injury is at the back of the minds of most players running down their contracts, and this is Tariq Lamptey we're talking about - a player that has missed approx a season and a half worth of games because of injury since he extended his contract in Jan 2021.

I also wonder if he feels any sense of loyalty to the club that has nursed him through this early part of his career, paying for surgery to prevent recurrence of the hamstring issue as well as using him sparingly until fully recovered, all while paying him a PL salary.

 

[Nathan]

Naylor reporting that we have rejected a permanent bid for Ferguson and open to the idea of selling in this window.

 

[Zeberdi]

Naylor reporting that we have rejected a permanent bid for Ferguson and open to the idea of selling in this window.

That’s unexpected - maybe some breakdown in relationships that is possibly forcing a permanent transfer out - can’t think why it would otherwise be good for squad depth or financially unless it’s for silly money?

Surely we would get far less for an injured, underperforming Ferguson than we would for a fully recovered Ferguson that’s scoring goals after a 6th month successful loan spell?

NYT (if that’s your source)

Brighton open to permanent Evan Ferguson exit in January

Brighton & Hove Albion are prepared to allow Evan Ferguson to depart the club permanently in the January transfer window. The 20-year-old Republic of Ireland international has attracted widespread loan interest from Premier League rivals and top-flight clubs abroad, but Brighton are also open to...

www.nytimes.com

Btw - Doesn’t mean to say we would have any intention of accepting any offers, just open to bids as every single squad member is theoretically - TB/PB has always said ‘if the price is right’ ….

 

[Forster's Armband]

Naylor reporting that we have rejected a permanent bid for Ferguson and open to the idea of selling in this window.

I know there has been a lot of debate about this but frankly, this is stupid (if it's true). If 2 of Rutter, JP and Welbz get injured we are screwed and where is the future planning. We won't find a striker with such natural finishing ability again in a hurry. I am usual very supportive of the transfer strategy but this one stinks.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Naylor reporting that we have rejected a permanent bid for Ferguson and open to the idea of selling in this window.

I just don't get what's going on here. We've been led to think that any deal would be a loan.
Unless it is for a massive fee, I think selling him on a permanent transfer would be a terrible mistake.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

I know there has been a lot of debate about this but frankly, this is stupid (if it's true). If 2 of Rutter, JP and Welbz get injured we are screwed and where is the future planning. We won't find a striker with such natural finishing ability again in a hurry. I am usual very supportive of the transfer strategy but this one stinks.

Screwed for what? Our season is effectively over bar a cup run.

 

[Nathan]

Seems very odd to me that we would entertain the idea of selling, goals seem to be a problem for us. He is under contratc until 2029, I would like to think it would have to be a big fee to tempt us.

 

[Seasider78]

I get Ferguson getting games for development but the being open to perm move suggests there’s something else going on here. Would be gutted to lose Evan on a perm finally looked like we had someone on our books who could succeed wellbeck

 

[Hiheidi]

I think it's been quite obvious for a while that something has gone on behind the scenes which has made him push to leave.

 

[casbom]

Either something is wrong behind the scenes for him to be even considered to be sold, or we think he is more injury prone now? I really hope we have someone else lined up as with the Cashin defender coming in (after looking at higher class defenders) and relying on an injury prone (albeit good) Welbeck who isn't getting any younger, this is turning into a not very good window!

 

[Forster's Armband]

Screwed for what? Our season is effectively over bar a cup run.

We are 6 points of 6th. I don't think our season is done just yet. Screwed for an out-and-out striker that has natural finishing ability. In fact, he's the only one who is a proper instinctive finisher. I love Welbz but he's not a 15-goal-a-season striker. Ferguson can and will be and if we sell him it will be a bigger mistake than VG.

 

[jackalbion]

Naylor reporting that we have rejected a permanent bid for Ferguson and open to the idea of selling in this window.

Lunacy, we will never get a natural finisher like him come through our academy, instead of trying to nurture him and use this talent, we'll move him on without any prospect of him becoming a first team regular, just for PROFIT. Not like our only other out and out strikers are, a 34 Year Old who is often injured, a 23 year old who is scoring a goal every now and then for a Ligue 1 side, who we seem intent on never giving a minute of first team football, a 20 year old who while at Portsmouth seems to have spent most of his time in the physio room, a 19 year old who is refusing to sign a new contract, and with the bizarre handling of Ferguson who can blame him. Odd, odd, odd.