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2012 World's Hardest Creature Competition, Semi Final Orca vs Honey Badger

Semi Final 1

  • Orca

    Votes: 61 58.1%
  • Honey Badger

    Votes: 44 41.9%

  • Total voters
    105
  • Poll closed .






Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
This person was willing to scar himself for LIFE, to serve as a warning for his children.

And this person was willing to scar herself for life to serve as a warning to her children. Being odd does not make you hard.

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Commander

Arrogant Prat
NSC Patron
Apr 28, 2004
13,560
London
the fact that the host of the tournament has had to rush to the Orca's defence is very telling.

I'm fear this is not the case. The Honey Badger's spirited fight is not going to be enough again. I confidently predict the Orca as this year's winner. Well played, Dolphin.

There's always next year. 2013, Year of the HONEY BADGER.
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
I'm fear this is not the case. The Honey Badger's spirited fight is not going to be enough again. I confidently predict the Orca as this year's winner. Well played, Dolphin.

There's always next year. 2013, Year of the HONEY BADGER.

We have to be prepared for this eventuality. Shame. We'll rouse ourselves once more for the fight, in the true spirit of the great Honey Badger himself.
 


Dr Q

Well-known member
Jul 29, 2004
1,847
Cobbydale
Go Orca.
The Honey Badger is just a pimped skunk. Bit like the chavvy Citroen Saxo's and the like outside McDonalds on a Friday night. All noise and extra's but b*gger all else under the skin!
 




MattBackHome

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
11,873
Orca's really aren't that hard when it comes down to it. They're CLEVER which is not the same.

Honey Badgers attack LIONS, BUFFALO, HYENA & BLACK MAMBAS. To match this, the Orca would have to take on entire ecosystems. Instead they pick fish from peoples hands in SeaWorld.

THIS IS NOT HARD:
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The Wizard

Well-known member
Jul 2, 2009
18,399
I've taken into account all arguments and have decided to vote badger, orca's are quite hard to a point but hunting in packs and knocking seals off ice, NOT hard.
 


Garry Nelson's Left Foot

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
13,527
tokyo
One of the honeybadgers defences is the secretion of a strong aroma from their anal glands. Or, in other words, they shit themselves. If you shit yourself, you're not hard. Ever.
 




Paskman

Not a user
May 9, 2008
2,026
Chiddingly, United Kingdom
Orca's really aren't that hard when it comes down to it. They're CLEVER which is not the same.

Honey Badgers attack LIONS, BUFFALO, HYENA & BLACK MAMBAS. To match this, the Orca would have to take on entire ecosystems. Instead they pick fish from peoples hands in SeaWorld.

THIS IS NOT HARD:
seaworld1.jpg

But Orcas attack and kill Great White Sharks!!!! Like to see a Honey Badger try that trick
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,295
Orca's really aren't that hard when it comes down to it. They're CLEVER which is not the same.

Honey Badgers attack LIONS, BUFFALO, HYENA & BLACK MAMBAS. To match this, the Orca would have to take on entire ecosystems. Instead they pick fish from peoples hands in SeaWorld.

Incorrect on so many counts
Honey Badgers can and are often stung to death by bees and it is very wary of them when trying to raid for food - so not hard imo as its after its own natural foodsource anyway.

Honey Badgers are fighting for their lives against lions and Leopards because those creatures are the Honey Badgers natural predator and would kill the Honey badger if it wanted too (which is what usually happens). Is a rabbit hard for fighting with a ferret when put down a rabbit hole after it because its fighting for its life? (if so maybe the rabbit should be next years winner)

So is the Honey Badger actively seeking confrontation with lions? No, the truth is that if it encounters a lion its left trying to fight for its life (which all creatures would do in that position) and flees.

That video used earlier in the thread just shows a couple of uninterested lions and a Honey Badger running off after a few seconds - not hard.

There is no record of a Honey badger attacking a black mamba as it knows to get out of the snakes way or it will die.

And the myth that honey badgers attack and bite off their opponents nuts, is just that, a myth !!
 


MattBackHome

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
11,873
But Orcas attack and kill Great White Sharks!!!! Like to see a Honey Badger try that trick

Orcas and GWS are the same size. It's not that big a deal.

Honey badgers attack and kill things much larger than themselves. They are harder.
 






MattBackHome

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
11,873
There's also a record of Honey Badger vs Black Mamba (with the HB surviving) in: The mammals of the Southern African subregion By John D. Skinner, Christian T. Chimimba
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
And while we're having all these discussions, you have to remember a Honey Badger is TINY and very CUDDLY looking. That's why they're hard, they do all this despite the odds being massively stacked against them. That's the definition of hard.

It's not the Orca's fault there's nothing bigger than them to take on. It's just the way it is.
 






Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,295
Interspecies Conflict: honey badger vs black mamba, honey badger, black mamba

So though it might die itself, it would STILL kill and eat the Black Mamba. FUCKMENTAL.

That reads as a hypothetical answer

Though honey badgers kill snakes regularly a black mamba would likely be the last snake the honey badger would ever fight.
As in scared to even take it on because the threat the Mamba poses to the Honey Badger or does it mean as in the badger being dead shortly after any meeting of these creatures? - depends on interpretation
The badger would kill the mamba as it could easily overpower it and bite it to death before but unlike with the venomous snakes that the honey badger normally kills, and whose venom it is immune, the mamba has a cardio/neurotoxin rather than a cytotoxin meaning it kills it's victim quickly and there can be no immunity. Therefore the honey badger would die just after killing the snake.

It fails to mention the speed of a mamba attack and that it would have biten the Honey Badger long before the Honey badger would have realised and been able to defend itself and if creatures like Lions are killed by Mambas and there are others like Rhinos and Cape Buffalo that run away from them, there is no way a Honey Badger would hunt and / or kill a Mamba but run away as quick as it could.
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,295
There's also a record of Honey Badger vs Black Mamba (with the HB surviving) in: The mammals of the Southern African subregion By John D. Skinner, Christian T. Chimimba

What does it say? - do they actually fight or just end up in close proximity to each other for a few seconds? can you post the text of this account?
 


leigull

New member
Sep 26, 2010
3,810
Not long to go now. Will the fraudster that is the honey badger make it through? If so it will be down to the sheer determined, often obsessive, nature of it's supporters when spreading their intense campaign of propaganda and myths
 






Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
Even fighting a Black Mamba when you're a tiny rodent-like creature is pretty hard. I'm sure most small mammals would just run away.

Honey Badgers constantly get WAY IN OVER THEIR HEADS. That's hard.
 


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