[Albion] 2 lucky VAR calls in last two matches?

[Hugo Rune]

Man, that is literally sick and you ougtha find the nearest psych ward to get your shit together.

Fortunately, Pedro was never going to connect because it was a (profoundly idiotic) gesture to the referee.

If you believe that he was actually aiming for the Brentford Ukrainian, you need to be in the psych ward too. Look at Pedro’s upbringing and where he came from. If he wanted to knock someone out at that range with his elbow, he’d have connected with ease. He is an elite athlete with supreme spacial awareness, he elbowed the air on purpose.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

The pull backs happen most games if not several times in a match. Have you seen Igors tonight? ...Thought it was even more cynical.

Yes they do, but Brentford's had been particularly egregious, with no yellows given.

 

[armchairclubber]

I wish Pedro had connected and broken his face, to be honest. A cynical pull back like that deserves it. Football has gone soft.

Yes they do, but Brentford's had been particularly egregious, with no yellows given.

Right, so just so I understand your position, are you in agreement with BM's post above, to which I replied?

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Right, so just so I understand your position, are you in agreement with BM's post above, to which I replied?

No.

My position is that Pedro reacted poorly and dramatically demonstrated his frustration.
I don't wish he had connected, I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
But also he had no intention of connecting.

The ref continually allowing Brentford's tactic of breaking up play illegally, without sanctions, was very frustrating.
And it was a deliberate tactic.

 

[dsr-burnley]

So as long as a player completes the action, you can do what you like? Look, it was a soft penalty and I don't think Pedro fouls him, but he does kick his foot after Rogers nicks the ball away.

In the current climate, you can't kick a player accidentally in the penalty area without risking a penalty and we can deny it all we like, but we'd be fuming if that was Pedro being kicked at the other end and it wasn't given.

But also Rogers kicks Pedro's foot after kicking the ball. How do you decide who kicked who when they both kicked each other? Giving a penalty for that is like seeing two people shaking hands and having to give a verdict on which one committed the handshake and which one was on the receiving end. They need to accept that sometimes there is contact in football without it being a foul.

 

[Brian Munich]

Man, that is literally sick and you ougtha find the nearest psych ward to get your shit together.

Man up, you soft Swede. They have contact sports where scrapping is part of the game in your part of the world don’t they - Ice Hockey??

Take a game of Rugby at levels below those that TMO (VAR equivalent) is used. If you deliberately infringe to prevent a team winning quick ball at the breakdown, you can guarantee swift physio retribution to dissuade you from doing it again. The modern phrase is: f*** Around Find Out.

 

[Han Solo]

Man up, you soft Swede. They have contact sports where scrapping is part of the game in your part of the world don’t they - Ice Hockey??

Take a game of Rugby at levels below those that TMO (VAR equivalent) is used. If you deliberately infringe to prevent a team winning quick ball at the breakdown, you can guarantee swift physio retribution to dissuade you from doing it again. The modern phrase is: f*** Around Find Out.

People wear helmets and shit in hockey and elbows certainly aren't allowed in the face as it can easily cause . I'm telling you again, its not normal that you wanted Joao Pedro to cause a skull fracture or whatever on the player.

Fortunately, Pedro was never going to connect because it was a (profoundly idiotic) gesture to the referee.

If you believe that he was actually aiming for the Brentford Ukrainian, you need to be in the psych ward too. Look at Pedro’s upbringing and where he came from. If he wanted to knock someone out at that range with his elbow, he’d have connected with ease. He is an elite athlete with supreme spacial awareness, he elbowed the air on purpose.

Like I've said in Joey Barton threads and whatnot, I don't like violence.

Putting you both on ignore for the sake of my own sanity.

 

[Brian Munich]

People wear helmets and shit in hockey and elbows certainly aren't allowed in the face as it can easily cause . I'm telling you again, its not normal that you wanted Joao Pedro to cause a skull fracture or whatever on the player.



Like I've said in Joey Barton threads and whatnot, I don't like violence.

Putting you both on ignore for the sake of my own sanity.

LOLs at the soft Turnip.

 

[Zeberdi]

A.

If the Brentford player gets in front of him, like most and also JP would probably expect, rather than run at the side of him, he gets the elbow straight in his face.

The "the Brentford player was already past him" take is not backed up by any evidence, all the cameras show the opposite. Draw a line if you can't see it.

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Nice analysis but interpreted to support your narrative rather than being objective.

Pedro did the equivalent of shaking your fist at someone.

No more, no less.

That’s why he wasn’t penalised for it.

 

[Bodian]

So as long as a player completes the action, you can do what you like? Look, it was a soft penalty and I don't think Pedro fouls him, but he does kick his foot after Rogers nicks the ball away.

In the current climate, you can't kick a player accidentally in the penalty area without risking a penalty and we can deny it all we like, but we'd be fuming if that was Pedro being kicked at the other end and it wasn't given.

But surely - it's only a penalty if it's a foul?

It can't be 'not a foul, but a penalty'.

 

[Brian Munich]

But surely - it's only a penalty if it's a foul?

It can't be 'not a foul, but a penalty'.

That’s what I don’t get. It should be that it has to be a foul in any other area of the pitch, but that doesn’t seem to apply.

Do you ever see a player throw themselves to the floor following the faintest of touches in any other area of the pitch with justification for a free-kick being that ‘he touched him’?

 

[Uh_huh_him]

A.

If the Brentford player gets in front of him, like most and also JP would probably expect, rather than run at the side of him, he gets the elbow straight in his face.

The "the Brentford player was already past him" take is not backed up by any evidence, all the cameras show the opposite. Draw a line if you can't see it.

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Whilst you're drawing your lines, why not measure the distance of the ref from the incident.
The pictures show the referee staring straight at the incident from seemingly less than 5 yards away.

Madley did not blink at the "attempted assault".
Nor did he book Pedro for the action.
Nor did he talk to Pedro about the incident
He did however Issue a yellow card immediately to Yarmoliuk.
In response Yarmoliuk did not dispute the incident or indicate that Pedro should be given a similar/harsher punishment (despite your view that he narrowly escaped a decapitation)

Everyone has pored over the footage and freeze framed their personal preferred angle of the incident.
And made up their own mind.
All of that analysis is in 2 dimensions.
If Madley had seen what the footage makes the incident look like, he wouldn't have hesitated to act. and sent Pedro off.

The three people best placed to know exactly what happened, did not feel the incident required any further discussion at the time.
That is the most concrete evidence.

Edit: Also Mee & Mbeumo looking directly at the incident from less than 10 yards away. Not interested in trying to get an opponent sent off for a "clear and obvious red card" for the first time in their careers.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Putting you both on ignore for the sake of my own sanity.

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