[Albion] £14.95 to watch Albion

[Is it PotG?]

Wow, the natives ARE restless.

I wonder if Barbs is having second thoughts about the online Q&A on Tuesday now.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Because what you're paying for season tickets is not for games the government won't let us go to. Why is this so difficult to get across?

As I understand it, and I'll try and make it simple, let's say you have paid for the equivalent of 10 home games. You have yet to see any of those 10 games. That could start with the WBA game and if it does, you aren't going to pay £14.95 as well. It is of course unlikely to be the WBA game but the point is once we start going then the monies you've paid will cover 10 games. So, up until those you start going to those 10 games, you can, if you choose, pay £14.95 to watch them.

You are not paying for the same thing twice.

Think of it as investing in a ticket for a concert tour next year but the exact date has not yet been finalised. In the meantime, if you are so inclined, and get the opportunity to see the same band this year then you would be expected to pay for the ticket for this years concert but you still get to see the band next year as well!

I think most get that you are not paying for the same thing twice it’s the basis the club has a pool of money from which these additional passes could be deducted from,

The admin is the issue for those as with Multiple season tickets in households, is it worth the admin allocating £3.73 for a household of 4 STL, probably not.

They will then be countered with, well junior wasn’t here for that one and so on.

The issue I have is the smaller Premier League clubs fans will need to pay more for PPV than the bigger clubs who will be on Sky / BT more. They need to think about allocating PPV fairly across all clubs.


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[Hampster Gull]

No one is coming out of this well.

Club: we're just going to keep your money for now to see what happens. Oh, can we have some more please?
Sky: we're just going to do a massive campaign to get sports fans to subscribe while all sport is BCD and then not show some of it unless it's pay per view.
Fans: can we have a really big name striker please, only can we also not pay for it?

Like I said on the streaming thread, not exactly #Together

Would we come out of it better if we just asked for a big striker?

 

[Tory Boy]

I still don’t get why I’m being required to pay £14.95 to watch a game I’ve already paid for in my front room, when I can watch that game abroad in another front room legally for about 50p.

Same number of cameras but just 50p.

We are being treated very badly in my opinion.

TB

 

[Medwayseagull]

Haven't read the whole thread but can anyone tell me how the ppv income from each game are being split between the broadcaster and the two clubs who are playing ?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Just food for thought... if the 25 man squads of the top 6 leagues in Europe took a 50% pay cut for a year it would put £15,600,000,000, extra into the kitty...

For example to save lower league clubs etc...

Considering people working for football clubs on 20k a year are getting laid off and losing their homes,and we are being asked to pay £15 per game whilst battling hard times with COVID.. I think you see why people are getting a bit annoyed.

This. All the money sloshing around in the EPL seems to have blinded them to the perilous state of the nation in 2020. Horribly misjudged strategy to squeeze yet more milk out of the cash cows. They've lost touch with reality

 

[nickbrighton]

what am I missing here, I really don't understand why people are losing it over this. Those people saying they have already paid are simply misunderstanding the situation. No one has paid for games that are played behind closed doors. The money paid so far is for games that will allow spectators, and should that not happen, money is in the pot for later or refunded once the situation has stabilised and its known when/if fans can return. That hasnt changed .
These games were NOT due to be shown on TV, the usual number of games are included in whatever subscriptions people have chosen to take out with Sky or BT. If you don't have a sky or BT subscription you wouldn't be getting any games anyhow.
These are extra games being made available if you choose to pay for them, its not compulsory.The fact is the games made available so far since restart that weren't due to be shown on TV have been free, that's a bonus, not a right. Its a surprise to me that any games have been free to air this season.

What the real issue here is, people have been given some games for free, and now they dont like the fact that is no longer the case.Why should the club give away games for nothing, as I said above no one is paying for these games through their season tickets, that has been explained quite well.

My only issue with this PPV is the actual cost which I agree is a bit steep.Its the same issue we have every year with early stages of various cup games, Do they charge low prices and get more fans, or higher prices and get fewer. Personally I think the clubs would get more revenue from a £10 a match as a lot more would take it up than will do at £15, and thus make up the difference in cost. Having said that I expect this figure wasnt plucked out the air, and some market research done before settling on that price.

The clubs are trying to plan without knowing what they are planning for, and the situation changes every week. What they have done here is a solution that will enable people to watch if they choose.

 

[Henfield One]

£14.95 to watch the Albion

The two of us are reluctantly saving £40 per home match and who-knows-what on any away ones so of course we'd pay. Least TB deserves.

Totally agree. It's entirely voluntary if you want to watch & pay or not - you may prefer to choose an illegal free stream as we could pre-Covid of course

We as a family are saving money each Saturday (home and away) - whilst BHAFC loses £1m each home match. The Club has losses expected to be in excess of £20m this past season - let alone 2020/21.

An optional £14.95, if you want to watch a match at home with up to 5 others, is not much to ask in my view, given the extraordinary times.

Yes it would be great if players cut their salaries en masse - but it's not going to happen. We all knew football finances and the model was nearing collapse - and was unsustainable in the long term. That moment has got ever so closer. That will drive the football business model to be changed - and players will have no choice. That it hasn't happened yet is only a matter of time.

The Amex and other PL stadia stand empty - deriving a fraction of their expected income. Costs largely remain unchanged. Football is still being played. If we asked for a refund on our ST d/debits, we wouldn't be a single penny out of pocket - but think about TB and his pockets.

We all need a reality check in these desperate times. More so because of where we of all Clubs have come from.

 

[Henfield One]

£14.95 to watch the Albion

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[Henfield One]

£14.95 to watch the Albion

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[Icy Gull]

Nothing like agreeing with yourself

 

[East Staffs Gull]

Some people are being asked to pay twice. They are the people who chose to let the club retain their ST refunds last season and who intended to do the same this season. And, yes, this is of course by choice. However, they are now being asked to make further payments in order to watch the games on TV. Many of these might do so, but come the point when 20/21 refunds are offered they might well reconsider donating these to the club.

 

[chaileyjem]

That if you paid up front for a ST this season it hasn't happened yet. WHEN will it happen?

No one is coming out of this well.

Club: we're just going to keep your money for now to see what happens. Oh, can we have some more please?

To be fair to club thats - until only a few weeks ago, the return of fans inside stadiums was looking likely this month so keeping hold of season ticket money with prospect of upcoming matches made sense. Barber is also hinting at a row back/further refunds on this in his Q&A.
"We appreciate the issue of personal cashflow is understandably becoming an increasing problem for some of our supporters. We have a board meeting early this week to review this again, as we have done periodically throughout the pandemic, and if there is any change to our existing policy we will update fans as soon as we are able."
The club promptly refunded fans last season for the 7 behind doors games , offered payment holidays, promptly stopped direct debits for this season and whatever the rights/wrongs of this proposal (steep price, optics, unfair to low profile clubs) - to suggest Brighton aren't sensitive to suggestion they're hoarding fans cash is a bit of stretch. (ask Palace fans for the mess they've got themselves into with their season ticket holders)

 

[GOM]

what am I missing here, I really don't understand why people are losing it over this. Those people saying they have already paid are simply misunderstanding the situation. No one has paid for games that are played behind closed doors. The money paid so far is for games that will allow spectators, and should that not happen, money is in the pot for later or refunded once the situation has stabilised and its known when/if fans can return. That hasnt changed .
These games were NOT due to be shown on TV, the usual number of games are included in whatever subscriptions people have chosen to take out with Sky or BT. If you don't have a sky or BT subscription you wouldn't be getting any games anyhow.
These are extra games being made available if you choose to pay for them, its not compulsory.The fact is the games made available so far since restart that weren't due to be shown on TV have been free, that's a bonus, not a right. Its a surprise to me that any games have been free to air this season.

What the real issue here is, people have been given some games for free, and now they dont like the fact that is no longer the case.Why should the club give away games for nothing, as I said above no one is paying for these games through their season tickets, that has been explained quite well.

My only issue with this PPV is the actual cost which I agree is a bit steep.Its the same issue we have every year with early stages of various cup games, Do they charge low prices and get more fans, or higher prices and get fewer. Personally I think the clubs would get more revenue from a £10 a match as a lot more would take it up than will do at £15, and thus make up the difference in cost. Having said that I expect this figure wasnt plucked out the air, and some market research done before settling on that price.

The clubs are trying to plan without knowing what they are planning for, and the situation changes every week. What they have done here is a solution that will enable people to watch if they choose.

This...mostly.

Some people seem to be confusing the ST issue and watching footie on TV, they are completely separate issues.

If you have a problem re paying to see live games at the stadium that your ST covers then deal with that with the club any way you wish.

Now lets consider the situation a year ago. Firstly if I could get a ticket and get to the game live I would do that. Failing that if it was on Sky/BT/Amazon I would watch that. If neither of those were possible than I didn't get to see the game. Full stop.

Situation now is same for the first 2, but the last option I now have PPV, so I miss no games.

I and I am sure many would have jumped at this a year ago.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

That if you paid up front for a ST this season it hasn't happened yet. WHEN will it happen?

No one is coming out of this well.

Club: we're just going to keep your money for now to see what happens. Oh, can we have some more please?
Sky: we're just going to do a massive campaign to get sports fans to subscribe while all sport is BCD and then not show some of it unless it's pay per view.
Fans: can we have a really big name striker please, only can we also not pay for it?

Like I said on the streaming thread, not exactly #Together

That's how it looks, yes. Still, if Tony Bloom voted in favour of the new charging, I'm not going to argue the toss. As for the rest, well, quite.

If I'm guilty of anything it is being too forgiving of the club for holding on to my money for now and, by virtue of that, lacking consideration for poorer supporters. Yes, I suppose my lack of rancour probably eflects my middle class arrogance and lack of thought for poorer fans who are struggling and would really benefit from having their ST money reimbursed. Apologies, poorer fans.

 

[chaileyjem]

PS: my guess as to how this will turn out - unlikely we will stay where are. I don't think it will be scrapped. So there will be a review and ...

- Prem will reduce the pricing to £10 or less.
- Brighton will develop a scheme to refund some of the ££ for 20/21 to season ticket holders - to those that want it. They've already hinted they are looking at it.
- Prem might potentially offer more games to free to air , or for "free" to BT/Sky/Amazon

 

[albionalbino]

I'm not against the idea of PPV for all league matches both now and post Covid. If it's priced competitively. I don't always have the time, money or inclination to travel to all the away games but I do always want to watch the Albion.
I'd love to be given the choice of paying a tenner to watch live on TV. Whether it's Amazon, Sky the PL or direct to the club.
I can see why some season ticket holders are feeling exploited but I do think it's been made quite clear that eventually all money paid now will eventually result in admission to live games.

 

[Medwayseagull]

PS: my guess as to how this will turn out - unlikely we will stay where are. I don't think it will be scrapped. So there will be a review and ...

- Prem will reduce the pricing to £10 or less.
- Brighton will develop a scheme to refund some of the ££ for 20/21 to season ticket holders - to those that want it. They've already hinted they are looking at it.
- Prem might potentially offer more games to free to air , or for "free" to BT/Sky/Amazon

I understood from Barbers comments that the PL didn't control the pricing, which I assume means the broadcasters do. If that is the case any reduction is in their hands not the PL.

 

[um bongo molongo]

PS: my guess as to how this will turn out - unlikely we will stay where are. I don't think it will be scrapped. So there will be a review and ...

- Prem will reduce the pricing to £10 or less.
- Brighton will develop a scheme to refund some of the ££ for 20/21 to season ticket holders - to those that want it. They've already hinted they are looking at it.
- Prem might potentially offer more games to free to air , or for "free" to BT/Sky/Amazon

It will ultimately come down to economics. It’s the reason they’ve only done up to end October for now. If enough of us don’t pay it, they’ll reduce the price or find another way

 

[Whitechapel]

2. £15 is too much. By what measure? Compared to a monthly Sky or BT subscription, yes. Compared to a week NowTV pass, yes. But with those products you get no choice as to what you get to see. In any given month you may see no Albion games at all.

This is the first time there has been the ability to choose a fixture to watch a la carte as it were - something many fans have been crying out for, for bloody years. Six of us could, under current rules, meet in a house and watch an Albion away game we’d never normally see completely legally for £2.50 each.

I'll stop there. Need more cider.

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For the £14.50 it costs to watch a game on my TV at home with SkyPPV I could go to Woodside road, pay to watch a real game of football and have enough left over for a pint and a programme. I'd also get the smug satisfaction of knowing that money is helping to support local business rather than being vacuumed into the pockets of multi-millionaires.

Both much, much better options than the PPV option.