[Albion] £14.95 to watch Albion

[Thunder Bolt]

Ha Ha. I'll accept a different point a view about pricing but the bellends are those that have been banging on about paying twice for the same thing when they haven't. Are you one of them?

You’re not helping your case by insulting fans who don’t agree with what the club are doing. If you’re so convinced, you wouldn’t need to label us clueless bellends.

 

[Easy 10]

Ha Ha. I'll accept a different point a view about pricing but the bellends are those that have been banging on about paying twice for the same thing when they haven't. Are you one of them?

 

[East Staffs Gull]

Can this just be NAILED to the top of the thread, because with all the bollocks over shit knows how many pages, THIS is what it boils down to.

Are you listening [MENTION=5208]drew[/MENTION] ?

I think the pricing is also relevant. £14.95 v £9.95 for a one day Sky Sports pass or £25 for a monthly Sky Sports pass, both offering 11 channels.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Yes they are for now.

Clubs have a cash flow problem at the moment but many people have a bigger cash flow problem. It's no good saying "jam tomorrow" to someone who's lost their job. Equally, said unemployedi person really shouldn't be trying to spend Tony's money on a striker.

If you're going to charge to watch games on TV then you need to refund the money people have paid for a product they're not receiving. End of.

That will happen. It's the law. What am I missing here?

 

[drew]

A wage bill being paid to people who for most part would pay football for free.

This is the bit I can't get my head around. There is so much money swilling around football at the moment, the vast majority of it in the premier league. Players wages are out of control, the sums they are earning are ridiculous and now teams are crying poor and asking the fans to put their hands in their pockets to make them more money.

Meanwhile clubs outside the premier league are really struggling after years of trying to keep pace and they have no 'product' to sell.

PR disaster doesn't even come close. It's a ****ing racket!

Honestly I hope the premier league bubble bursts and we can start again. Maybe not overspending in that striker will turn out to be prudent.

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1. Really, playing for free then how would they look after their families? Players in the national league get paid. Players that play for free play on a Sunday morning down the local park and there's a reason why they don't earn a living from it!!

2. As for starting again, we'd only end up back where we are.

Players get paid because the money is there to pay them. If people stopped going to games and stopped paying subscriptions then the wages would go down but the punter doesn't do that.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Stooge? I assumed he IS Paul Barber!

In which case, ahem, I'm Spartacus. Er, Paul Barber. Err, [MENTION=5208]drew[/MENTION].

Season ticket payments (what? £30 a game) will be reimbursed for absentees. Meanwhile for half that amount you can pay to watch on telly. What's not to like?

I fail to understand the meltdown. Someone please explain. And please stick to BHA - if anyone takes out a small onion to work up some tears and a diatribe cum homily for the likes of Brentford and Sheffield Wednesday I may have to reach for the sick bag. Never conflate. One swallow does not make two in the bush. I didn't get where I am today by conflating disconnected anecdotes.

 

[drew]

You’re not helping your case by insulting fans who don’t agree with what the club are doing. If you’re so convinced, you wouldn’t need to label us clueless bellends.

I can understand if people don't agree with the principle, I don't agree with them but that's fine. I can understand if they think it's just down to price and they think it's too much, I'd like it to be free but I understand that the clubs have a product to sell, that's fine. What really bugs me is the amount of people banging on and on about how they have paid for their season and therefore they are paying twice when anyone with a bit of sense can see that they aren't. Easy10 in particular.

And I think you'll find I was called the bellend first!!!

Out of interest, I believe you were one that was originally complaining that you were paying twice. Do you now see that what you have paid for your season ticket and this fee of £14.95 are two separate things.

 

[Weststander]

1. Really, playing for free then how would they look after their families? Players in the national league get paid. Players that play for free play on a Sunday morning down the local park and there's a reason why they don't earn a living from it!!

2. As for starting again, we'd only end up back where we are.

Players get paid because the money is there to pay them. If people stopped going to games and stopped paying subscriptions then the wages would go down but the punter doesn't do that.

Is the money there to pay them?

Pre CV19, a wide array of EPL clubs such as Brighton, CP, Everton and Villa, all made annual losses in the £10m’s, in Everton’s case £100m.

They’re over-paying wages to a huge extent (combined with agents and transfer fees), relative to income. In a self inflicted trap to maintain EPL status.

The money wasn’t there.

Mad isn’t it?

 

[Whitechapel]

Ha Ha. I'll accept a different point a view about pricing but the bellends are those that have been banging on about paying twice for the same thing when they haven't. Are you one of them?

Nope. I’ve refused to put a penny in to the club or the Premier League for over a year now, since it became increasingly obvious to me that all the club saw fans as was cash-cows to use until they’d been milked dry and their udders resembled withered little stalactites.

It seems like most people have started to cotton on; however it’s no surprise to me that you’re now in a rapidly shrinking group of people who would probably let the club curbstomp them just as long as Barber wrote you a nice email about it.

 

[Bozza]

I can understand if people don't agree with the principle, I don't agree with them but that's fine. I can understand if they think it's just down to price and they think it's too much, I'd like it to be free but I understand that the clubs have a product to sell, that's fine. What really bugs me is the amount of people banging on and on about how they have paid for their season and therefore they are paying twice when anyone with a bit of sense can see that they aren't. Easy10 in particular.

And I think you'll find I was called the bellend first!!!

Out of interest, I believe you were one that was originally complaining that you were paying twice. Do you now see that what you have paid for your season ticket and this fee of £14.95 are two separate things.

#TeamDrew

It's quite late and drink has been taken, so I'll be brief-ish, and try to cover a few points concisely..

1. "Paying twice" - no, we're not. STHs have paid some money to see Albion live at the Amex. The club are holding this money right now as, until very recently, there was a hope/expectation that some of us would be able to watch games at the Amex around now. That doesn't seem very likely right now, but with the Royal Albert Hall, the O2 and Alexandra Palace being permitted to hold indoor events with crowds in attendance in the near future, who the hell knows.

We all trust in Uncle Tony, the man who has pumped the best part of £400m into the Albion. Our money held by the club will either be refunded to us, or be used for future games when we can be in attendance. Maybe we'll be given an option on this soon given the changing sentiment currently around fans in grounds.

2. £15 is too much. By what measure? Compared to a monthly Sky or BT subscription, yes. Compared to a week NowTV pass, yes. But with those products you get no choice as to what you get to see. In any given month you may see no Albion games at all.

This is the first time there has been the ability to choose a fixture to watch a la carte as it were - something many fans have been crying out for, for bloody years. Six of us could, under current rules, meet in a house and watch an Albion away game we’d never normally see completely legally for £2.50 each.

I'll stop there. Need more cider.

 

[Weststander]

Nope. I’ve refused to put a penny in to the club or the Premier League for over a year now, since it became increasingly obvious to me that all the club saw fans as was cash-cows to use until they’d been milked dry and their udders resembled withered little stalactites.

It seems like most people have started to cotton on; however it’s no surprise to me that you’re now in a rapidly shrinking group of people who would probably let the club curbstomp them just as long as Barber wrote you a nice email about it.

It would be interesting to know if the ST waiting list is now much, much lower. With Lockdown, at first on NSC it was rumoured that it’d disappeared completely ... unlikely imho from 8,000 (less the last release of ST’s).

All the time demand is strong, the club can relax on any costing matter, in the knowledge that there’ll be replacements for those who can’t afford or justify it any more.

 

[e77]

As for the £15, bearing in mind I don't have a problem with paying for the away games as I have never had a ticket for them, that is down to individuals if they want to pay it or not. In my opinion, and everyone is different, £10 would have been about fair so I will be limiting my purchases to games I like the look of.

Ultimately the clubs and TV companies will know fairly soon if they have got it right or not.

 

[drew]

Is the money there to pay them?

Pre CV19, a wide array of EPL clubs such as Brighton, CP, Everton and Villa, all made annual losses in the £10m’s, in Everton’s case £100m.

They’re over-paying wages to a huge extent (combined with agents and transfer fees), relative to income. In a self inflicted trap to maintain EPL status.

The money wasn’t there.

Mad isn’t it?

Well I may be being a little generous by saying the monies there but the clubs aren't going out of business in the EPL. Owners continue to plow money in and everyone has been saying for years the bubble will burst but it hasn't yet. The big problems come for those clubs that get relegated!

 

[Easy 10]

I can understand if people don't agree with the principle, I don't agree with them but that's fine. I can understand if they think it's just down to price and they think it's too much, I'd like it to be free but I understand that the clubs have a product to sell, that's fine. What really bugs me is the amount of people banging on and on about how they have paid for their season and therefore they are paying twice when anyone with a bit of sense can see that they aren't. Easy10 in particular.

And I think you'll find I was called the bellend first!!!

Out of interest, I believe you were one that was originally complaining that you were paying twice. Do you now see that what you have paid for your season ticket and this fee of £14.95 are two separate things.

I see you've singled me out. Fine. I'm going to splice this down to the bare facts.

I have paid over £400 to BHAFC since mid-March, for games I have not attended. This is ongoing. I've not taken the "payment holiday", I have cracked on with it, in the forlorn hope that one fine day I and my son can retake our seats in the WSU. That may or may not happen in the foreseeable.

Therefore - and lets pin this down - YOU think its entirely justifiable for BHAFC to charge me another £15 to see every home game that I can't go to. On top of what I've paid. THATS your argument ?

 

[e77]

To make a more general point everyone involved in the Premier League food chain seems to be making sacrifices apart from the players at the moment.

 

[drew]

I see you've singled me out. Fine. I'm going to splice this down to the bare facts.

I have paid over £400 to BHAFC since mid-March, for games I have not attended. This is ongoing. I've not taken the "payment holiday", I have cracked on with it, in the forlorn hope that one fine day I and my son can retake our seats in the WSU. That may or may not happen in the foreseeable.

Therefore - and lets pin this down - YOU think its entirely justifiable for BHAFC to charge me another £15 to see every home game that I can't go to. On top of what I've paid. THATS your argument ?

You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead etc etc.......

 

[Easy 10]

To make a more general point everyone involved in the Premier League food chain seems to be making sacrifices apart from the players at the moment.

How DARE you.

Ozil is paying for Gunnasaurus,

 

[drew]

To make a more general point everyone involved in the Premier League food chain seems to be making sacrifices apart from the players at the moment.

What we don't know is what they are doing with their money. Many do a lot for charity but, unlike Smashy and Nicey, don't like to talk about it. Difficult to judge when we don't know what they spend it on.

 

[Easy 10]

:facepalm;

You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead etc etc.......

Yeah, whatever. I'm guessing you're not someone who's been paying since March for nothing.

 

[Weststander]

Well I may be being a little generous by saying the monies there but the clubs aren't going out of business in the EPL. Owners continue to plow money in and everyone has been saying for years the bubble will burst but it hasn't yet. The big problems come for those clubs that get relegated!

I’ve never believed that the PL bubble will burst. My Dad was saying it 20 years ago! Instead, for better or worse, I thought that English and then UEFA football finally started reaching its commercial potential in the way the NBA, NFL, MLB and NHL had done for decades.

Overseas markets in wealthy parts of the world, new platforms such as Amazon, more leisure time, people love their sport.

Full marks for your NSC resilience in the last 24 hours btw