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At least if we can get rid of this mendacious, bungling tory cabal, we can have a new, more serious government, whatever their relationship with the BBC

In the 1990s, I read a most extraordinary comment in the Sun (then at the height of its popularity), in support of its political views, simply exclaiming.... '4 million Sun Readers can't be wrong!' I rest my case on the power and vacuity of populism!

....or simply 'no brain'......

Some dark humour about the game tonight. I make no predictions, there are too many variables..... but I expect our great players to give a good account of themselves. The only annoying thing is that we seem to have a sort of annual 'hangover' in terms of performances after the Palace match...

Stay cool. The outcome of this match will not define our season (either way)!

....based on? I can't understand how the debate could morph into that if you just said 'I don't agree with GL but I defend his right to say what he said'.......

I just dipped into this thread again, so apologies if you have already explained..... but if you are agreeing with the majority that freedom of speech needs to be preserved (regardless of your support for the sentiments expressed), then surely that is all that is being debated! No need to say more!

.. fair response. Even the tory cabal can say what they like and try to shut down free speech.... as long as we stop them actually doing it in the name of free speech!

Some I am sure do.... but I speculate (and it is speculation) that most don't. Maybe they can cater for both by offering both alternatives?

why not just watch without sound and make a cup of tea or something during analysis?

Do you think there will be 'fury' from the NSC tory extremists who claimed there was no such apology?

This expresses the situation better than I could.....

and..... Mark Dollman 54 minutes ago The Tories made the most out of being offended, and the BBC had to be seen to be doing something about it, but probably didn't expect the backlash. One postive is that it's highlighted the Richard Sharp situation again.

BBC apology to Gary Lineker? Apparently so... and quite right too.

Maybe this might explain it all to the hard of understanding....

https://allpoetry.com/refugee-blues Similarities?

Lineker criticised the LANGUAGE of the tory leadership, and frankly the LANGUAGE was not dissimilar to the rhetoric of 1930s Germany. That is where the similarity ends, although goodness knows where the language on either side of the argument could lead us. To talk about 'Poland invasion' etc...

First Attenborough, then Lineker, this clever distraction and erosion of rights is working for the far right agenda that cannot tolerate free speech....

You have beliefs, now where is your evidence for those beliefs? Your unconvincing rhetorical question comes straight out of the Daily Mail playbook...... ;)

and why is that, pray tell? Why not provide an answer WITH EVIDENCE if you have it.... or admit you are just speculating.