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On the other hand ....Jeremy Corbyn has just increased Labour's share of the vote more than any other leader in any other election since Attlee in 1945. For those (including me) who thought he would really tank, that might be seen as some kind of achievement /success. It all depends which lens...

Diane Abbott still seems pretty popular in her own constituency. Stonking majority and a hefty swing in her favour. Interesting given the earlier comments on here and elsewhere about how toxic she is for ordinary voters http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/constituencies/E14000720 Sent from my...

I think the presumption that a "strong" negotiating position is required may be questionable, because it assumes an adversarial "negative sum game" type negotiation. There may be alternatives which don't start from that position, and out of which both sides can gain through mutual interest, in...

It's very positive for me. And my family. And most of the people I know. Sorry about that Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

There will be some brilliant thread bounce potential after this evening. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Labour will do worse than exit poll in "leave" seats, and better in "remain" seats . Still all to play for Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Not as promising as it first seemed, now the Geordie seats are coming in, but it's what happens in the marginals that counts, and the exit poll can't be relied on for those. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You might need to explain that, for us very stupid people Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ho ho ho Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Nah they all voted for Caroline Lucas before they went to work Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Some seemed to be - albeit not the ones in the picture I posted

They were on prime time television FFS. And it was hardly them "daring" to question Corbyn - they were loving it. The only point of the post was to suggest (slightly tongue in cheek, but I don't know why I bothered) that they all look a bit similar. To suggest that this is some kind of...

Hope you don't get wet. It's p*****g down here.

It's hardly something originating with lefties on NSC - the notion of the "shy Tory" is a long-standing and well-evidenced phenomenon in the world of political polling and the pollsters spend a lot of time, energy and money devising statistical methodologies to try and correct for it. It's also...

It's "a new phenomenon" (phenomena is plural).

Not sure I completely follow the argument about why a thrashing for Labour is "good for a softer Brexit". Could you elucidate?

Fair enough. I suppose my doubt centres on whether "forthcoming" is necessarily "honest".

Yes, mine does (Forerunner 235). I have no idea how accurate the Vo2 reading is (but at 51, for a 62 year old man, it seems implausibly high to me). The race predictor times also seem a bit fast, especially on the longer distances: It's currently showing: 5K: 21:43 (my actual PB is 21:59, and...

I rarely agree with your posts, and we clearly are at different ends of the political spectrum from each other, but this post is spot on.

But the "shy Tory" effect can apply just as much to an exit poll as to a regular opinion poll, surely? Also as exit polls are face-to-face rather than telephone or online (like most of the others), people might be even more reluctant to confess in person to having just committed a deeply...