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G Didn't see it, but could he not have been convicted between filming/editing and broadcasting ?

However it's calculated, fixed or straight, it's still rather embarassing to be below bloomin' Welsh, however you look at it.

Slightly unfortunate line-up order

Hard to tell as yet. Seems we were much more organised this time, but if the squad doesn't match up to at least get us top half, then it hasn't been so good. Results are everything, I'm afraid, but at the mo I'd give an optimistic 7.

There were certainly women very close by, a mother and her daughter were sitting waiting for the show and had to run for it. The odds of hitting those in the cars, the motorbiker, the cyclists and walkers all being men is pure chance.

I hadn't made that connection, but yes, the name I saw yesterday was male (though I can't actually remember the name or where I saw it, certainly online, maybe the argus)

How can Sky Sports News ever be boring when Natalie Sawyer is on.

I saw an 11th name yesterday, not sure if it an official release though. Rather selfish, but am a little relieved, now I know all the names, that I didn't know any of them. There are still 11 families with losses though.

"Sauce we have made" ??

Really, life is too short. We have our memories, but it no longer matters, move on.

And bike

D Blimey, move on already

No, not at all.

No, I don't think so. We've just had one tough match and the next will also be a challenge. Give them a break.

I've noticed this. Had one flying round my lounge yesterday, but I think it's the first this summer. Don't recall it being like that before.

I knew that would happen. It'll be a long half hour

Go on then, you were going to anyway

Well, that's buggered my 2-0 loss prediction.

Sorry can't help with that. Have done kidney cancer, then last year bowel cancer, and hopefully lung cancer isn't on the cards, I think I've done my share.

The last time I had cereal, I was 12, so that's just over 40 years ago.