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Jeez how did that Watkins shot not go in? That was astonishing

You're just focusing on short term ceiling, but perhaps we should consider the floor? Every individual season is at the whim and mercy of injuries, form and luck, but there is a long term trend which is more important. Differences in finishing positions are just noise around a mean. I think...

Three seasons ago 13th was the best ever finish in our history. Don't let two exceptional seasons make us think that finishing 13th is bad.... If that can be our floor we should be delighted

If that's the way you choose to look at it we're taking a step backwards regardless, whether we're 8th, 9th, 10th or whatever. Personally i don't think this season is a step backwards at all. When you climb a mountain some bits are easy, some bits are hard, but as long as you keep pushing on...

Top captaining by John Simpson, well done that man

It's unfair on RDZ, and indeed also on Potter. They're just following the same path - arrive abd change to a more exciting style, get g some great early results but start conceding a lot on the break, and after a while find the rest of the league have worked you out. It takes time to adapt to...

There isn't a lot of difference between 9th and 12th, so hard to care too much. Nevertheless, West Ham losing keeps alive a dream of europe if we miraculously manage to win our last five on the spin.

Can't argue that Palace have been great this first half. When you get Olise and Eze on the pitch together they are compelling to watch. This is how you play when you get an early lead at Anfield. I can see them doing it, Liverpool look off, and agree with Cheeky , if there is any team I can...

All very true I suppose, but I have to say I'm enjoying Caicedo being shite much more than Mac Alister being good

So we're staying up? In the premier league? Pretty good :)

1 in 4? Seven teams haven't managed that for the entire season, and only three have sacked their manager so far. Only the top five have lost fewer games than us this season. And if that instead read 12 wins in 24 league games we would find ourselves fourth or fifth and in the champions league...

Trossard no (but a different manager may have been kinder to him), Sanchez yes (but we've been over this one on here before). So we don't need to discuss any further ;) I think I was just light-heartedly pointing out that RDZ seems to have publicly fallen out with more players in one year than...

Its off until its on again. Could be as soon as Saturday. Clearly we need to win several games before the end of the season, but there are plenty of winnable games before the end of the season. And if we don't make it, it doesn't really matter :) There's always next year. And the one after that...

Dunno, he started with Trossard, moved on to Sanchez, then fell out with Dahoud and now Fati is in the firing line. Maybe he likes to have a fall guy to keep the rest onside :shrug:

Shouldn't the max Forest can get take into account a possible overturning of the points deduction?

Couldn't hear a thing on the telly, but must be about where they put the mics I guess

Blimey, another one. Judging by all the previous he won't be playing for us again then

This is all a bit weird, a large part of ramadan is about the repenting and forgiving of sins. Its about the most appropriate message they could have put up. When we hit idul fitri (eid) in a few weeks my whatsapp will start pinging with my friends and employees writing 'mohon maaf lahir...

Which is why I think Chelsea will beat City