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  1. Mtoto

    [Albion] "Brave", "a risk" and "I can see it going horribly wrong"...

    Two seasons is getting into the realm of conditional probabilities and that's when my head starts to hurt. But yes, that's probably a fair assessment, and something for the folk who insist that we were "certain/almost certain" to get relegated under Hughton to consider. As for the incremental...
  2. Mtoto

    [Albion] "Brave", "a risk" and "I can see it going horribly wrong"...

    The stats are hardly the greatest surprise given Hughton's overall approach, which was obviously pragmatic and designed for survival, but I suspect there were some impressive defensive metrics there too which redressed the balance and are the reason we got over the line. As for the three 1-0s...
  3. Mtoto

    [Albion] "Brave", "a risk" and "I can see it going horribly wrong"...

    It's getting a bit boring to keep pointing this out, but whatever "the pundits" might think, we are not now favourites to go down, were never any shorter than 9-4 against last season (when there was only one place still available) and have been a shade of odds-on for the drop for about a...
  4. Mtoto

    [Albion] "Brave", "a risk" and "I can see it going horribly wrong"...

    Interested to know what the reasoning is behind this? Hughton's form figures are 1 1 in terms of keeping us up. Potter has no form at all, and proposes to play a more aggressive style of football which widens the range of possible outcomes in terms of the final points total. How is that not...
  5. Mtoto

    [Politics] EU Elections. Where is your X ?

    Absolutely I remember the Irish border being raised as an issue, on many occasions. It's the only land border between the UK and the EU, and it's written into the Good Friday Agreement that it will remain completely invisible in perpetuity - how could it not be mentioned? I also remember Leave...
  6. Mtoto

    [Politics] EU Elections. Where is your X ?

    No, it's yours. It was mentioned plenty over the course of several months in the run-up to the vote, by both sides. Google "2016 Irish Border warning" for a selection of the arguments which were put out there but you managed to miss.
  7. Mtoto

    [Politics] Brexit

    1. No, it isn't. Not on our terms, anyway. 2. Royally taking the p*ss, and therefore a fantasy 3. Insane 4. Vassalage It's entirely possible to leave a political union, but not while taking the p*ss, because the rest of them won't let you.
  8. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    Everton 1-0? In all, we took 17 points from teams that finished top half, don't think that's too shabby tbh.
  9. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    A share of luck perhaps, but is it a "fair" share if the defence has done its job and kept a clean sheet? It's not quite the same as winning by the odd goal in five. I'll give you Newcastle, that was a bit of a burglary, but the xG for both West Ham and Wolves was around 1.5 versus 1 for us -...
  10. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    I'm not suggesting that a point a game is all we should be aiming for, I'm suggesting that it makes sense to protect the one you start with as much as is practically possible, which is not quite the same thing. And all points are not created equal - the one we started with at Wolves, for...
  11. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    Out of interest, do you think were there any points gained during the season that were down to something other than luck, or any that were lost that weren't all the fault of Hughton & his tactics?
  12. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    Palace at home? Palace away? Bournemouth away in the Cup? Everton 1-0 at home? Wolves 1-0 at home? Or don't those count because it wasn't 4-0 and therefore not "classy" enough for you? Fascinating, btw, that you've turned it into "lovers" and, presumably, "haters". Are you proud to be a hater?
  13. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    The game before Burnley was a win. The game after Burnley was a win, and so were two of the three games after that, including our first win at Palace for decades. Your point was?
  14. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    We didn't nearly go down. Never shorter than 9-4 and even that for only a day or two. That was mainly thanks to a pretty strong start to the season which included a win against Manchester United and a sequence of three wins in a row at one point. We were not in the relegation zone at any stage...
  15. Mtoto

    [Albion] Chris Hughton leaves with immediate effect

    But not so brilliant that he deserved a chance to take that next step having kept us up in the first two seasons and gained plenty of valuable experience as he did so. Instead, you'd rather take a punt on a manager with undoubted promise but no Premier League experience at all and no shared...
  16. Mtoto

    [Albion] Chris Hughton leaves with immediate effect

    If they hadn't sacked Bailey in the first place ...
  17. Mtoto

    [Albion] Damned whatever we did apparently.....

    Of course it troubled me, they were abject and looked utterly lost. But just *four days later* they got a point at Wolves. Remarkable turnaround, don't you think? Hughton gave them back something - confidence, belief, whatever - and they were able to build on it sufficiently to get over the...
  18. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    Next game after Fulham - when we could easily have been 3-0 and out of sight at half time - was home versus Watford, when we battered them and had no luck at all in front of goal. xG (from 538) is Albion 2.1, Watford 0.3. Not the performance of a team that's suddenly gone VERY defensive. Game...
  19. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    We came from behind to get a point against Newcastle, from behind to get a point at Arsenal (which might have been three) and almost kept Spurs at bay for 95 minutes. If we were "unravelling" - which is a matter of opinion anyway - then someone seems to have ravelled us back up again in time to...
  20. Mtoto

    [Albion] Damned whatever we did apparently.....

    Yes, lots of games: good, bad and indifferent. I was there when we beat Manchester United for the second season running and looked very comfortable as we did it. Were you? And when we beat Palace with 10 men. How about you? Couldn't make the FA Cup semi-final sadly, most annoying as I was at the...

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