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- Jun 13, 2020
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red card all day long, not even debatable
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[Football] Palace v Millwall
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Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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pretty sure no-one is debating whether it's a red or not (Joey Barton aside)
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Michael Oliver he’s one of our own 
He tried his hardest not to give the red before VAR intervention.
Unlucky there Michael.
He tried his hardest not to give the red before VAR intervention.
Unlucky there Michael.
Christ.
- May 8, 2018
- 11,338
I’m not saying it wasn’t a red card, it clearly was
Usual hyperbole and exaggeration from many quarters I guess.....it was a stonewall red and Oliver should have realised immediately but worst ever 
It would at least need to be 100% premeditated for that (Keane on Haaland for example) and I don't think he was intending to injure Mateta. Ill-judged and executed, and dangerous for sure but not the worst ever. Beaky was caught in the raw emotion of the immediate aftermath.
It would at least need to be 100% premeditated for that (Keane on Haaland for example) and I don't think he was intending to injure Mateta. Ill-judged and executed, and dangerous for sure but not the worst ever. Beaky was caught in the raw emotion of the immediate aftermath.
Not Andy Naylor
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People have shown the still picture of the challenge and, looking at that, it's incontestably a straight red, and how the ref didn't give it immediately is hard to say.
BUT look at the live footage and see where the shadow of the stand is.
On a very sunny day, the keeper (wearing dark it) is running from the shade into bright sunlight, and the sun is in the ref's eyes. Perhaps not quite so straightforward a decision then, possibly?
BUT look at the live footage and see where the shadow of the stand is.
On a very sunny day, the keeper (wearing dark it) is running from the shade into bright sunlight, and the sun is in the ref's eyes. Perhaps not quite so straightforward a decision then, possibly?
My split-second thought about the keeper as the ball dropped over the top was 'what's he doing out there?'. Once he was committed outside the box, he had little choice but to go for it and didn't fancy sticking his head in. So he went with a very high foot, which was a bad decision - but one taken in a fraction of a second, pumped up by the atmosphere very early in a game that was always going to be feisty.
No malice but fully justified red card, obviously.
Durlston
"You plonker, Rodney!"
There were plenty of audible chants from the Holmesdale end of "where's your goalie gone?" to the Millwall fans yesterday. Whether this was a direct aim at the tragedy of Matija Sarkic in the summer or the nutcase sending off is still unclear. But hey, let's give the Premier League club the benefit of the doubt and accuse Millwall fans of being scum for singing one of the oldest chants in the game when they didn't know the seriousness of the situation.
All the reporters can f**k right off with dragging Millwall's name through the mud again.
All the reporters can f**k right off with dragging Millwall's name through the mud again.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Update from a Palace friend, Mateta’s ear was nearly sliced in half. He received 28 stitches. When he left Selhurst Park he was covered in blood, and in a neck brace.
darkwolf666
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Won't have a problem with shadows, with Palace's new invisible stand!
Unfortunately this is true. It needs changing as dazzer suggests. "You f***ed up, change your decision to red card".
But how Oliver "missed" the challenge is of greater concern. It was so clear, so obvious and so dangerous, it was "neglect of duty" on Oliver's part. You would like to think he would be doing a month or two in L2 to "re-train" - but we know he won't get sanctioned for his incompetence.
I hate Palace and I'm no fan of Mateta but that is one of the very worst challenges I have seen at any level of football. I wish Mateta well and hope that Millwall keeper gets a record ban for his assault.
Durlston
"You plonker, Rodney!"
Is this still the lead story in football?
Christ, I'd take 25 stitches to get £100,000 a week and the very best treatment and care to recovery.
Stop being such pùssies, Palace, and move on.
Christ, I'd take 25 stitches to get £100,000 a week and the very best treatment and care to recovery.
Stop being such pùssies, Palace, and move on.
It isn't really anything to do with Palace at this point, is it? It is the FA who are pushing for a longer than standard ban for the Millwall keeper - not Mateta or his club
schmunk
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In his defence, he was completely unsighted by Mateta, and the ball pinged away exactly in the way he would expect if the Millwall goalie got to it first (as he did).
Mateta going down holding his bleeding head might have been a BIT of a clue, though...
If he had gone with his head then we'd quite likely be looking at a head to head or head to shoulder collision. Possibly not a red card then but a far worse outcome for one or both players and match abandoned. So going with the feet not the most irresponsible thing he could have done.
Also can people calm down about the number of stitches. 28 stitches in A&E on a Friday night would be a big old gash and a nasty scar. 28 teensy weensy stitches from a plastic surgeon is a different matter.