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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%

  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%

  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%

  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%
  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .


WATFORD zero

WATFORD zero

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I do find it somewhat ironic that having escaped one completely incompetent extreme Government for one that is centre right/center/centre left (depending on your viewpoint) the left wing, centre and centre right are now in some sort of weird deadly embrace desperate to get rid of them.
Despite knowing very clearly what the current alternatives are. Maybe it's the same masochistic tendencies that got us Brexit and Johnson :shootself
 




BadFish

BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
19,195
Its all gone a bit Monty python, someone is going to get slapper with a fish (pun) soon.

every calm down, just bream!
 










Bakero

Bakero

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Oct 9, 2010
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Almería
WATFORD zero said:
I do find it somewhat ironic that having escaped one completely incompetent extreme Government for one that is centre right/center/centre left (depending on your viewpoint) the left wing, centre and centre right are now in some sort of weird deadly embrace desperate to get rid of them.
Despite knowing very clearly what the current alternatives are. Maybe it's the same masochistic tendencies that got us Brexit and Johnson :shootself
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That's where I am. I'd rather a left leaning Tory in a red tie than what we've had the last ten years or so. Starmer is far from perfect but, unfortunately, perfection is never on the ballot paper.
 


BadFish

BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
19,195
WATFORD zero said:
I do find it somewhat ironic that having escaped one completely incompetent extreme Government for one that is centre right/center/centre left (depending on your viewpoint) the left wing, centre and centre right are now in some sort of weird deadly embrace desperate to get rid of them.
Despite knowing very clearly what the current alternatives are. Maybe it's the same masochistic tendencies that got us Brexit and Johnson :shootself
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The UK defaults to public school ruling toffs, Oxbridge and Bullingdon. Born to rule so we'd better vote for them.

Labour have to be much much better and have to convince the ruling class owned media that they are better so the electorate believe it.

Starmer is not doing a very good job of this at the moment. indeed some people are quite convinced they are worse than the last lot!!!
 






Thunder Bolt

Thunder Bolt

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Aug 18, 2009
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Beside the seaside, beside the sea
BadFish said:
The UK defaults to public school ruling toffs, Oxbridge and Bullingdon. Born to rule so we'd better vote for them.

Labour have to be much much better and have to convince the ruling class owned media that they are better so the electorate believe it.

Starmer is not doing a very good job of this at the moment. indeed some people are quite convinced they are worse than the last lot!!!
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The problem is one side playing dirty with lies and propaganda. Three word taunts and jibes. It’s on NSC as well.
 


BadFish

BadFish

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Bakero said:
That's where I am. I'd rather a left leaning Tory in a red tie than what we've had the last ten years or so. Starmer is far from perfect but, unfortunately, perfection is never on the ballot paper.
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There is no need for any of them to be anywhere near perfect.

'You only get what you will settle for' to parapharase Noel Gallagher.
 






WATFORD zero

WATFORD zero

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BadFish said:
The UK defaults to public school ruling toffs, Oxbridge and Bullingdon. Born to rule so we'd better vote for them.

Labour have to be much much better and have to convince the ruling class owned media that they are better so the electorate believe it.

You people are nuts.

Starmer is not doing a very good job of this at the moment. indeed some people are quite convinced they are worse than thr last lot!!!
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And there's the issue. A senior elected politician from what is apparently 'the most popular' party in Britain gets charged under the anti terrorism act of taking bribes from Russia to push russian anti Ukraine propaganda in his speeches and articles and it doesn't make the headlines in any of the mainstream media (including the BBC).

Starmer goes to an Arsenal match and is upgraded to the director's box for security ? A week's worth of headlines.

How you persuade the ruling class media to go against their interests whilst half of the electorate are more stupid than the average person, i've no idea.

It's a heady mix :lolol:
 










BadFish

BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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armchairclubber said:
Can't hear anything coming from you now either @Deportivo Seagull

Got an answer to my questions yet?
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So you are refusing to answer a simple direct question and then having a go at other people for not answering your mealy mouthed question when you are called out for it.

I would put the glass down and your phone and sleep it off. Its a bit early for drinking too, or is it still last night?
 


rogersix

rogersix

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Jan 18, 2014
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armchairclubber said:
Nope, I won't.

I have never voted Tory in my life and despise what they did over the last 15 years or so (including Starmer :) )

Have you ever voted for them?

The Tories that is, or Starmer?

Or is Starmer your fake socialist about to do deals with Musk and Trump?
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Corbyn achieved what exactly?
 


armchairclubber

armchairclubber

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Aug 8, 2010
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Bexhill
BadFish said:
So you are refusing to answer a simple direct question and then having a go at other people for not answering your mealy mouthed question when you are called out for it.

I would put the glass down and your phone and sleep it off. Its a bit early for drinking too, or is it still last night?
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No alcohol involved.

I've given my answer, I thought you heard it loud and clear.

And now I'm waiting to hear from @Deportivo Seagull and @Hugo Rune.
 




BadFish

BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
19,195
WATFORD zero said:
And there's the issue. A senior elected politician from what is apparently 'the most popular' party in Britain gets charged under the anti terrorism act of taking bribes from Russia to push russian anti Ukraine propaganda in his speeches and articles and it doesn't make the headlines in any of the mainstream media (including the BBC).

Starmer goes to an Arsenal match and is upgraded to the director's box for security ? A week's worth of headlines.

How you persuade the ruling class media to go against their interests whilst half of the electorate are more stupid than the average person, i've no idea.

It's a heady mix :lolol:
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From the outside looking in it is totally insane.

Whilr i am quoting songwriters indont think anything truer than.

'The public wants what the public gets'

has ever been sung.
 




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