[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

[Seagull58]

How does Putin control Trump? Is it a financial matter or the rumoured video?

In my opinion it's both. Russia, allegedly, has had Trump in its pocket since 1987, probably through blackmail, but has also been lining his pockets for decades through juicy business deals. Carrot and stick.

 

[SouthSaxon]

How does Putin control Trump? Is it a financial matter or the rumoured video?

I don’t think he does, directly. How would anyone control someone like him?

I suspect it’s more that Trump has been favourable to Russia since the ‘80s, which Putin uses to his advantage. Manipulation is probably a better word than control - nudge Trump in the right direction knowing his predilection will do the rest.

 

[Seagull58]

I don’t think he does, directly. How would anyone control someone like him?

I suspect it’s more that Trump has been favourable to Russia since the ‘80s, which Putin uses to his advantage. Manipulation is probably a better word than control - nudge Trump in the right direction knowing his predilection will do the rest.

Don't you believe the ex-KGB agent who said Trump was "captured" in 1987 and has the codename Krasnov?

 

[Motogull]

Don't you believe the ex-KGB agent who said Trump was "captured" in 1987 and has the codename Krasnov?

Is Krasnov Russian for Bunglekunnt?

 

[SouthSaxon]

Don't you believe the ex-KGB agent who said Trump was "captured" in 1987 and has the codename Krasnov?

I can believe that, I’m just saying I don’t think they use coercion on Trump. It’s well established that he would have met KGB agents in 1987. “Captured” as in “won to our cause”, for sure. “Captured” through some kompromat is debatable - not out of the question, but I don’t think they’d need it for what we’re seeing.

Coercive control is hard work. It breeds resistance because the subject feels the constraint of the trap. Threats have to be constantly reinforced and escalated. Constant monitoring required.

It’s far easier to control someone if they’re a True Believer. They’ll go along willingly and they’ll actively resist efforts from outside to “save” them because they become convinced that the outside saviour is the real threat.

Trump is a narcissist who thinks he’s the greatest super-genius the world has ever seen. “A really high IQ individual“. He’s easily flattered, loves money almost as much as he loves himself.

I’d bet money that when he visited Moscow in 1987, they treated him like a king and that he’s been putty in their hands ever since, easy to manipulate without the need for any threats.

Edit: that still could have included some attractive visitors to his hotel room. Sex is one of the most reliable means of control. But I doubt any level of compromising video would cause a man like Trump embarrassment. But if he got laid every time he went to Moscow, it’s going to have made him very fond of the place.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

I believe that the piss tapes are real.

 

[SouthSaxon]

I believe that the piss tapes are real.

Entirely possible. Still wouldn’t make them the best way to control him.

 

[Eeyore]

I believe that the piss tapes are real.

There was obviously a leak.