nevergoagain
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1lv1gqgmdzo - This could be like a domino rally. Wonder who else was in this group.
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[Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......
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- Jan 18, 2009
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I suspect the British public are broadly sympathetic to the needs of refugees and the situatIon in Ukraine. There is however a threshold to that sympathy though, and in both cases the proportion of the public that are sympathetic AND willing to throw endless billions of pounds to fund both matters is very small. You appear to be in that special cohort.
It maybe that you cannot mentally process the political optics of U.K. taxpayers committing to more and more expense on a foreign war and the lavish indulgence of foreigners in the U.K. who are not refugees, whilst the very same taxpayer have to accept reductions in long standing benefits and increased taxation that will hobble the country economically.
Most of the British public can square that very simple political circle and it’s a major factor why Starmer and Labour are tanking in popularity.
- Jan 18, 2009
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This has a similar feel to the Gordon Brown “bigot” and Lady Nugee moments, which demonstrated that the “Fabian” Labour constituency in the Labour Party truly has nothing but contempt for their working class “gammon” fellow travellers………….
Hasta la Victoria siempere it’s not.
I don’t think it’s fair to call this out as only a Labour problem given similar incidents from other parties in recent years. The real story is that politicians of all colours continuously show their total contempt for the electorate they are supposed to represent
n1 gull
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nevergoagain
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highflyer
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- Jan 21, 2016
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Live by the sword die by the sword. Starmer's Labour made the decision that they would win the election by pointing fingers at the Tories behavior (admittedly all too easy to do) and slagging off 'old' labour, rather than presenting a coherent and inspiring vision for change. As a result they have painted themselves into a corner economically whilst exposing themselves to endless accusations of hypocrisy. Chickens...roosting...etc.
cjd
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Hard to disagree.
To be a politician in the first place , you have to have a big mouth, be self-important and a total inability to see someone else,s point of view. There are one or two classic cases of this on this very thread. I don't need to name them. ( But I will....Watford Zero ).
n1 gull
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Oh I agree. This awful Government is the worst I can ever remember. It came in claiming the moral high ground, grown ups are back in the room, I won't take any lectures from you etc...
They are an absolute shower of shite
Boris was one of the biggest supporters of helping Ukraine. So, I suspect even if we had the tories in, we'd still be helping them.
Lenny Rider
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- Sep 15, 2010
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Regardless of the content of the conversation, are they not actually supposed to be private between the people in the chat?
Granted he shouldn't have said it, but how many other people say things in chats they shouldn't?
How long before they have access to all of our whattsapp texts, unless they don't already?
RandyWanger
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Internet says they're trying to get this.
They were leaked by someone in the group
- Jul 10, 2003
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armchairclubber
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Particularly on here. Not sure how much clarity or trust there was in Labour policy leading up to the election, though it's now evident policy we thought was understood has not all rung true.
And yet you would likely receive vitriol abuse for questioning anything or pointing out Labour hipocrisy, particularly from one Labour member, whilst likely being put on ignore. Someone who it appears now ignores this thread
It all stinks of Starmer authoritarianism.
nevergoagain
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If it was a private chat group between mates I'd agree but this was a group of elected officials discussing other elected officials and those they represent so think that differentiates it somewhat. I do pray no one gets access to my group chats though or it will ruin my chances of being PM in the future.
RandyWanger
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Officials shouldn't be allowed to use WhatsApp for official business.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Labour has suspended eleven councillors in Greater Manchester as part of an investigation into a WhatsApp group where offensive messages were shared.
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