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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%

  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%

  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%

  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%
  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .


The Antikythera Mechanism

The Antikythera Mechanism

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Bodian said:
Yes- I agree. But as you say, we don't know what difference there would have been if Trump had been President not Biden. So, whilst the last four years have seen these wars, the thrustof @lasvegan 's argument / postings is that the last 4 years have been a debacle because of Biden. That's what I'm interested in hearing from them about.
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Ah, ok.
 




dwayne

dwayne

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The Antikythera Mechanism said:
For me, it is that the last 4 years have been plagued by wars / incursions,

Russia / Ukraine - Potential for WW3 (MSN)
Hamas / Israel
Israel / Iran - Potential for WW3 (MSN)
Israel / Lebanon
Syria
Gaza
Etc.

Whilst it is unknown what measures Biden could've taken, if any, to prevent / resolve the above, one thing is for sure and that is that they have had a major impact on the Global Financial Markets and energy prices. Whether Trump can help to bring a form of "peace" is another unknown as who knows what the outcome of discussions between groups of demented lunatics, Trump being one, will produce.

Ending hostilities will, however, see a surge in Global Markets. and a drop in energy prices.
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Global markets?

Global markets are at an all time high across the board.
 














FamilyGuy

FamilyGuy

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Jul 8, 2003
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n1 gull said:
I wish we would leave the WHO, Paris agreements and stop all DEI programs

Mad Ed is going to bankrupt the country with his net zero nonsense

Biden's first action was to pull the troops out of Afganistan
Imagine if Trump had done that?
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As I remember it (and I may be mistaken), Biden pulled out due to an agreement and commitment made by Trump right at the end of his first reign.
 




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rippleman

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Oct 18, 2011
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lasvegan said:
Biden after 14 months was a disaster. Inflation was rampant, you lived it. Besides, you’re misquoting me.
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You do realise that imposing tariffs on imports, thereby increasing the costs to US consumers, will not bring down the rate of inflation In fact, it will have the opposite effect.

If "inflation was rampant" under Biden..........b.b.baby, you aint seen nothing yet!
 








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Bodian

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lasvegan said:
Biden after 14 months was a disaster. Inflation was rampant, you lived it. Besides, you’re misquoting me.
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In what way / aspects was he a disaster? It's already been pointed out that Inflation was a global thing.

So, other than inflation - how was he a 'disaster' (and 'debacle' as you said earlier but haven't yet backed up).

Do you not actually have anything?
 


BadFish

BadFish

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Triggaaar said:
What economic benefits?
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The ones that made people vote for him and look the other way from the insanity.

They are coming in about 14 months apparently
 








Weststander

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clapham_gull said:
Tonight's development.

The USA to take ownership of Gaza and redevelop it.

..according to Trump.
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He claims he’s been personally working hard on it for months. “It‘s a great plan, a very great plan”.

US personnel on Arab soil …. isn’t that a licence for terrorist murders?
 




clapham_gull

clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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The Gaza Strip will be The Rivera of the Middle East. He's turning it into a holiday resort.

So there you go, isolationist USA only lasted a few weeks. He's sending the troops (and interior designers) in.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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lasvegan

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Bodian said:
In what way / aspects was he a disaster? It's already been pointed out that Inflation was a global thing.

So, other than inflation - how was he a 'disaster' (and 'debacle' as you said earlier but haven't yet backed up).

Do you not actually have anything?
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What do you think of his foreign policy, or border policy to name but two?
 


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