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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .








nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
18,865
Gods country fortnightly
Just reading the last dozen posts, this seems to have been a successful negotiation for America and Colombia.

And more importantly for America, the news/publicity of people being returned to their country is a warning shot for others.

Love him or hate him, it looks like DT has done something (or is claiming to have done something) the American public is asking for.
Its a lot about optics. Lets see how many Trump manages to expel from the US, he'll struggle to get to a fraction of his 10m target

Here Labour have expelled 14,000 from July to December. If the far right were in power its all we'd ever hear about
 


WATFORD zero

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NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
28,300
Do you know which British politician in June 2019 said “an endorsement from Donald Trump tells you everything you need to know about what’s wrong with Boris Johnson’s politics and why he isn’t fit to be PM”.

Ouch.

Still supporting Johnson to the bitter end I see :dunce:

In macro trade terms we are small beer to the US, it’s the top tier exporters that Trump will target with tariffs, and that means China and Germany, but by extension that means the EU.

Here is the sweet spot for the U.K. to exploit, we keep far enough from the EU that we can secure a discrete US/U.K. trade agreement, all the indicators are that one will be on offer.

I don’t doubt there will elements of that which will make some shit the bed however that’s life, overall a free trade agreement with the US would be positive, not least a US performing well economically.

At least your plan from a couple of weeks ago seems to be coming together nicely :laugh:
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
18,865
Gods country fortnightly
Still supporting Johnson to the bitter end I see :dunce:



At least your plan from a couple of weeks ago seems to be coming together nicely :laugh:
WTF is "a discrete US/U.K. trade agreement" ?

Does that mean do it on the QT, ie no one will notice the importation of hormone beef or handing over of the NHS to US Corporations?

Seems only 21% of the population think US trade should be a priority.

 




dwayne

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
16,528
London
The lines have been blurred of late by people who can gain political and financial power from it. See Trump, Farage, Badenoch, Johnson etc. They have also been blurred by people who won't gain anything but are stupid enough to believe and repeat them without understanding that they are lies. "But they're just like me and they're doing it for my benefit" :dunce:

Which camp are you in dwayne :laugh:
I’m not in any camp….
 




Lyndhurst 14

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Jan 16, 2008
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nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
18,865
Gods country fortnightly
Could you imagine it here. 2 tier tells Pakistan to take their child rapists back or he's withholding aid, cancelling visas and diplomatic travel.
Think the days of shipping British convicts to foreign lands passed about a century and a half ago.
 












Bodian

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May 3, 2012
15,260
Cumbria
WTF is "a discrete US/U.K. trade agreement" ?

Does that mean do it on the QT, ie no one will notice the importation of hormone beef or handing over of the NHS to US Corporations?

Seems only 21% of the population think US trade should be a priority.


I think that'd be a discreet one.
Indeed! https://www.scribbr.co.uk/frequentl...rete means 'separate' or ',', or 'discerning'.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Well, yes and no. What they they objected to was the use of US military planes not to the deportations - and the deportees will now be coming on Columbian planes so far as I can tell. So, is actually Trump who has folded? But of course, he'll not sell it that way!
@goldstone and @RandyWanger
 


Herr Tubthumper

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NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
63,642
The Fatherland
He won his argument with Columbia.
Has he also been arguing with the cold weather clothing brand? If he wants to take Greenland, he’d be foolish to fall out with them.
 


Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,706
Brighton factually.....




nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,865
Gods country fortnightly
Yeah, lets do that.....

They generally not British-Pakistani.

Cue Braverman - Mail on Sunday - IPSO

People have been groomed by right wing media who amplify grifters

 


Brian Munich

teH lulZ
Jul 7, 2008
502
Trump takes the performance of the major US stock indicies very seriously as a measure of his success, so he is going to be royally pissed off that a Chinese open-source AI model (DeepSeek) has wiped $1T off the value of US tech stocks overnight, all because it can run off of less advanced chips.

I'm sure he'll respond rationally.
 


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